Join Date: Aug 2010
Hey, just a quick rate.
Firstly, it seems weird that you're running sunny day, but not running any fire-type moves, especially on stuff that can fit it. I get that it's for weather disruption, and it powers up rotom-h, but it would be kind of silly not to take advantage. You state that iron head is for landorus-therian, as well as to 2hitko lucario and offensive gliscor. To be fair, it's also for terrakion, and it's true that you can't crush him on the switch-in any more, but switching it out for flamethrower would accomplish a lot of what iron head does currently. Iron head's a nice hedge move that also hits landorus-T and gliscor, but you can always ice beam those two on the switch-in. You can also replace shadow claw instead.
Next, you can probably replace dark pulse with flamethrower. Draco meteor already destroys gengar, and you can u-turn to something like rotom-H for the volt switch/trick if you want to deal with it. I get that you've got problems with jellicent, but it seems like you're devoting a lot of moveslots to it, which you might need.
Landorus-T really needs stone edge to check salamence and dragonite. Toxic is cool, but again, i'd remove it.
I understand you're trying to deal with jellicent, so i'd urge you to instead make one or two of these changes instead, so you can still carry one or two of them, but your team will really suffer otherwise.
Also, you've said yourself that Spd vaporeon is the most expendable pokemon on your team, and you ARE running a volt-turn team. I hate to give you this idea, because it's so ******** overly used and recommended these days, but why not try Specially Defensive rotom-w? If you want some of the same ability to deal with status as heal bell vaporeon affords you, you can run chestorest, or if you want the ability to heal more than once, run pain split. Hydro pump, volt switch, and will-o-wisp are generally standard. If you're doing this, you can replace rotom-H with some variant of heatran. I know you didn't want to do this, but you really do need another dragon resist. You can even run the sunny day trapper set, thus giving you another source of sunny day. I don't believe you can run two versions of rotom without violating sleep clause, so it's important to replace rotom-H if you want to use rotom-W. Another interesting idea would be to run a bulky QD volcarona with roost. If you can keep SR off the field, you can use that to check genesect beautifully, since it takes most of its special hits well and threatens to flame body burn him if he uses u-turn. This also provides you with a nice boosting sweeper. Theoretically, it could also run u-turn for more volt-turning goodness, but even with xatu support, that seems iffy.
Finally, you have almost no way to deal with gastrodon. Anything that switches in easily does little to it, and everything that can really do damage to it has trouble switching in. Rotom-H can trick, but first it's got to switch in, get hit by a probable scald or toxic, then hope the gastrodon doesn't realise what it switching in means.This won't totally remedy it, but i'd recommend switching HP grass on rotom-H over HP ice. After all, you can always volt-switch on dragons, and overheat on landorus-T/gliscor. With this, you can at least lure it in, and dish out the damage to it on the switch-in. It's true you can do this with trick, but with HP grass, even if you whiff on the trick, you still have a way to lure gastrodon in, then pound him.
Edit: Just had a great brainwave. Why not replace vaporeon with Spd Lanturn? It maintains volt switch momentum, helps deal with electric-types and rotom-w (You're medium weak to them if they can change moves), while also checking/countering tornadus-T and still providing heal bell support. If you want to go bulky, there's rest/sleep talk/heal bell/volt switch, but if you actually want a water attack on it, just run scald/volt switch/heal bell/filler move. This also gives you a nice way to deal with jellicent-switch in, don't care what it does, volt switch on it. You can even make the fourth move toxic if you really want to lay the smack-down on jellicent, although it'll probably run from volt switch.
Last edited by tehy; Nov 18th, 2012 at 10:45:54 PM.