Originally Posted by Fat Antar
...out of 132 battles. Likely you're just seeing the same team over and over again.
True... but still he is a good Pokemon those Leaf Storm's add up pretty quick... but yeah he does have his counters (Heatran walls him utterly Dragonite can take a powered up Dragon Pulse) at full health and OHKO with Hurricane and Chandelure has a type advantage) But I still don't see him staying in NU... I say UU at the least OU at the most... though I'm a bit of a noob here...
Don't really get why people use Substitute and Leach Seed over HP Fire... Leach Seed is good but he already has Giga Drain for recovery and without HP Fire he's completly walled by Steel types... I still think Leaf Storm/Dragon Pulse/Giga Drain/HP Fire is the ideal moveset for him... perfect coverage sans is pretty sweet)