Originally Posted by Fat speed ghilliesniper
Heck Stallrein even without t spikes is a freaking pain, especially to other hail teams. Molk can attest to this because I toxic stalled out his slowking and was in the process of stalling his Glaceon with it, along with 2 other teams on the ladder. Seriously, you need a powerful stab super effective move to kill this thing because other wise it'll just sit there and laugh at you until one of you pp stall.
I dont remember battling a single Stallrein during any of my matches, so that probably wasnt me, lol. But i can attest to walrein being a very potent defensive threat on hail teams. Walrein is incredibly bulky on both the physical side and the special side, and its perfectly capable of taking moves its weak to without much trouble (even decently powerful STAB ones, not something like Gallade Close Combat, though). Walrein's Ice Body ability effectively neuters its Stealth Rock weakness after two turns as well, making it slightly easier to switch the bulky walrus in when there are layers of hazards up. From there walrein can simply set up a Substitute and stall the opposing team for 32 turns, wherein they will repeatedly have to deal with residual hail damage, toxic damage if you have set up Toxic Spikes or used Toxic on the Pokemon you are stalling. In some cases, a properly supported Walrein can take on entire teams by itself with no trouble at all, definitely a threat to watch out for this time around! n_n