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Ace Emerald · Dec 5th, 2012, 9:43:42 PM

[Overview]

Walrein's niche in UU lies in its decent bulk and access to great passive recovery in Hail via Ice Body. With Snow Warning support, Walrein restores 1/8th of its health every turn and can use Protect to gain 1/4th of its health before the opposing Pokemon can even land a hit. Its good bulk allows it to force out weak attackers and set up a Substitute. Once it is behind a Substitute, it can use Protect to recover health wasted by Substitute so that Walrein can rack up Hail damage. Its Special Attack is decent and a STAB Blizzard can deal decent damage. However, Water/Ice typing leaves it weak to two common UU attack types, Electric- and Fighting-type attacks. It also has a weakness to Stealth Rock and all hazards. Even so, Walrein can pull its weight on Hail teams due to its good bulk and great passive recovery.

[SET]

name: Stallrein
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Protect
move 3: Blizzard / Super Fang
move 4: Roar / Toxic
item: Leftovers
ability: Ice Body
nature: Bold
evs: 232 HP / 108 Def /168 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

This set aims to take advantage of Walrein's good defenses and decent Special Attack to become a bulky threat. Walrein utilizes Protect and Substitute combined with passive recovery from Leftovers and Ice Body to take no net damage while opponents lose health to hail damage. The process works like this: Walrein forces as switch with its good bulk and powerful STAB Blizzard. It then uses Substitute as the opponent switches and recovers a total of 12.5% of it's health due to Leftovers and Ice Body. Walrein uses Protect, gaining another 12.5% health and fully recovering the 25% health used to construct a Substitue. The next turn when your opponent breaks the Substitute, Walrein just constructs a new one, and waits for passive damage to build. Blizzard deals heavy damage to many Pokemon immune to Toxic Spikes, including Crobat, Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Roserade, and Zapdos. Roar allows Walrein to phaze set up attackers and deal more passive damage in the form of hazards, while Toxic eases reliance on Toxic Spikes support by allowing Walrein to poison opponents itself

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[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

The EV spread gives Walrein enough Speed to outspeed base 85 Speed Pokemon that invest 8 Speed EVs such as Gligar and Suicune. The HP EVs allow Walrein's Substitutes to always take a Night Shade or Seismic Toss while making sure the Substitute/Protect strategy fully recovers all HP. The rest is invested in Defense as Water-types aren't often hit for super effective damage by physical attacks. However, the EVs can be invested in Special Defense or split depending on what threats the team needs to cover. Abomasnow is a vital teammate as Hail is crucial to its set. Walrein enjoys Toxic Spikes support as its strategy involves staking passive damage. Nidoqueen can tank Fighting- and Electric-type attacks that scare Walrein, while Roserade can tank Electric- and Grass-type attacks. As Walrein is weak to all forms of entry hazards, it appreciates the help of a Rapid Spinner. Blastoise is the best Rapid Spinner in UU, but it shares two weaknesses with Walrein. Claydol, while an inferior Rapid Spinner, can tank Fighting- and Electric-type attacks.

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Snover is required to set up hail.
The EV spread is fairly simple. It gives enough Speed to beat 8 Speed Gligar and Suicune (what's your policy on speed creep lol) which allows you to OHKO Gligar denying your opponent Stealth Rocks while also setting up a Substitute before Suicune can try and Scald burn you. The rest of the EVs maximize physical bulk while giving you Substitues that survive Seismic Toss and Night Shade. 232 HP EVs are used so that there is no rounding when you use Substitute+Protect which otherwise would cost you 1 HP net per turn which could become become significant if you stall for significant periods of time.
Alternatively Walrein can choose to invest in special defense or split up its even defenses as its typing and stats allows it to take hits from both sides decently. Generally as Walrein tries to set up on opponents like Flygon and Sharpedo physical defense is optimal - no special defense is reqired to set up on most of the tier's bulky waters.
Speed EVs are very important as they also allow Walrein to use Roar on slower Pokemon like Blastoise before they can Roar Walrein out as well as letting Walrein KO weakened spinners before they can use Rapid Spin as they are all slower than Walrein. Should you not use Roar for some reason taking away Speed to invest more in bulk is much more plausible.
Apart from Snover's hail support the best help Walrein could ask for comes from Nidoqueen - not only does she resist Fighting and Rock for Walrein she can set up Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock both of which help Walrein stall. She can even check Zapdos and Raikou somewhat well with Sheer Force Blizzard and Earth Power.
Toxic Spikes are extremely useful to help stall out opponents that are immune to hail (opposing Ice-types) and those that have recovery.
Roserade also pairs nicely with Walrein because she too can set up Toxic Spikes while absorbing them on entry. Meanwhile she boasts a 4x Grass resistance unlike Nidoqueen helping her absorb hits for Walrein.
Because Walrein is weak to all entry hazards, while being absolutely crippled by Toxic Spikes, she appreciates Rapid Spin support even more thn the average hazard weak Pokemon. Should you use Xatu as a pseudo-spinner keep in mind she has many overlapping weaknesses with Walrein such as Rock and Electric while being unable to very effectively abuse its resistances.
After set up Walrein is particularly difficult to break with more offensive teams but if they have certain Pokemon who can break Walrein's Substitue Protect cycle you should be wary of setting up even if it seems like you have a "free" turn.

[Other Options]

Choice Specs takes advantage of Walrein's decent Special Attack, but is outclassed by Glaceon. Thick Fat can be used to give Walrein a resistance to Fire-type attacks, but Walrein cannot take advantage of all the passive recovery. Walrein has other interesting support moves such as Encore or Yawn, but has a hard time fitting them in any sets.

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[Checks and Counters]

Cincinno and Rhyperior can use Rock Blast to break Walrein's Substitute and damage it, but both take heavy damage from Blizzard. Bisharp holding Leftovers can set up on Walrein while avoiding poison, negating hail damage, and resisting Blizzard. Cobalion can also do this while threatening a super efective Close Combat, but must beware the Special Defense drops. No Steel-type directly fears Walrein, however; they can potentially be phazed and stalled. Bulky Shed Skin Scrafty can set up Bulk Ups while healing status and hits Walrein for super effective with its Fighting-type STAB. Hazards make Walrein unable to take powerful attacks such as Darmanitan's Flare Blitz or Flygon's Outrage. Defensive teams have an easier time against Walrein. Umbreon can heal status with Heal Bell and health with Wish. Resttalk Snorlax, while rare, takes little from Blizzard and can phaze with Whirlwind, but Walrein can predict this and phaze with Roar before Snorlax.

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Dec 5th, 2012, 9:43:42 PM	#1
Ace Emerald Taking care of business Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,245 Lost in thought Mentor	[Overview] <p>Walrein's niche in UU lies in its decent bulk and access to great passive recovery in Hail via Ice Body. With Snow Warning support, Walrein restores 1/8th of its health every turn and can use Protect to gain 1/4th of its health before the opposing Pokemon can even land a hit. Its good bulk allows it to force out weak attackers and set up a Substitute. Once it is behind a Substitute, it can use Protect to recover health wasted by Substitute so that Walrein can rack up Hail damage. Its Special Attack is decent and a STAB Blizzard can deal decent damage. However, Water/Ice typing leaves it weak to two common UU attack types, Electric- and Fighting-type attacks. It also has a weakness to Stealth Rock and all hazards. Even so, Walrein can pull its weight on Hail teams due to its good bulk and great passive recovery.</p> [SET] name: Stallrein move 1: Substitute move 2: Protect move 3: Blizzard / Super Fang move 4: Roar / Toxic item: Leftovers ability: Ice Body nature: Bold evs: 232 HP / 108 Def /168 Spe [SET COMMENTS] <p>This set aims to take advantage of Walrein's good defenses and decent Special Attack to become a bulky threat. Walrein utilizes Protect and Substitute combined with passive recovery from Leftovers and Ice Body to take no net damage while opponents lose health to hail damage. The process works like this: Walrein forces as switch with its good bulk and powerful STAB Blizzard. It then uses Substitute as the opponent switches and recovers a total of 12.5% of it's health due to Leftovers and Ice Body. Walrein uses Protect, gaining another 12.5% health and fully recovering the 25% health used to construct a Substitue. The next turn when your opponent breaks the Substitute, Walrein just constructs a new one, and waits for passive damage to build. Blizzard deals heavy damage to many Pokemon immune to Toxic Spikes, including Crobat, Nidoqueen, Nidoking, Roserade, and Zapdos. Roar allows Walrein to phaze set up attackers and deal more passive damage in the form of hazards, while Toxic eases reliance on Toxic Spikes support by allowing Walrein to poison opponents itself</p> Skeleton Walrien can take advantage of all of its assets including high defenses and good Special Attack. In hail constantly using Protect and then Substitute leads to no net damage for Walrien while the opponent must take hail damage as well as any other residual damage that you have set up. Blizzard badly damages almost everything that is unaffaected by Toxic Spikes, which you should be using in conjunction with this set, including OHKOing Nidoking, offensive Roserade and even offensive Zapdos if you managed to put up Stealth Rock. Although this set may seem invincible on paper there are a few tactics your opponent can employ to defeat the traditional Stallrein. This set attempts to anticipate those tactics and counter-play against them with Roar which can phaze even Suicune before he has a chance to end your stalling cycle with Roar. Roar also abuses entry hazard damage should you have set them up earlier in the game. [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] <p>The EV spread gives Walrein enough Speed to outspeed base 85 Speed Pokemon that invest 8 Speed EVs such as Gligar and Suicune. The HP EVs allow Walrein's Substitutes to always take a Night Shade or Seismic Toss while making sure the Substitute/Protect strategy fully recovers all HP. The rest is invested in Defense as Water-types aren't often hit for super effective damage by physical attacks. However, the EVs can be invested in Special Defense or split depending on what threats the team needs to cover. Abomasnow is a vital teammate as Hail is crucial to its set. Walrein enjoys Toxic Spikes support as its strategy involves staking passive damage. Nidoqueen can tank Fighting- and Electric-type attacks that scare Walrein, while Roserade can tank Electric- and Grass-type attacks. As Walrein is weak to all forms of entry hazards, it appreciates the help of a Rapid Spinner. Blastoise is the best Rapid Spinner in UU, but it shares two weaknesses with Walrein. Claydol, while an inferior Rapid Spinner, can tank Fighting- and Electric-type attacks.</p> Skeleton Snover is required to set up hail. The EV spread is fairly simple. It gives enough Speed to beat 8 Speed Gligar and Suicune (what's your policy on speed creep lol) which allows you to OHKO Gligar denying your opponent Stealth Rocks while also setting up a Substitute before Suicune can try and Scald burn you. The rest of the EVs maximize physical bulk while giving you Substitues that survive Seismic Toss and Night Shade. 232 HP EVs are used so that there is no rounding when you use Substitute+Protect which otherwise would cost you 1 HP net per turn which could become become significant if you stall for significant periods of time. Alternatively Walrein can choose to invest in special defense or split up its even defenses as its typing and stats allows it to take hits from both sides decently. Generally as Walrein tries to set up on opponents like Flygon and Sharpedo physical defense is optimal - no special defense is reqired to set up on most of the tier's bulky waters. Speed EVs are very important as they also allow Walrein to use Roar on slower Pokemon like Blastoise before they can Roar Walrein out as well as letting Walrein KO weakened spinners before they can use Rapid Spin as they are all slower than Walrein. Should you not use Roar for some reason taking away Speed to invest more in bulk is much more plausible. Apart from Snover's hail support the best help Walrein could ask for comes from Nidoqueen - not only does she resist Fighting and Rock for Walrein she can set up Toxic Spikes and Stealth Rock both of which help Walrein stall. She can even check Zapdos and Raikou somewhat well with Sheer Force Blizzard and Earth Power. Toxic Spikes are extremely useful to help stall out opponents that are immune to hail (opposing Ice-types) and those that have recovery. Roserade also pairs nicely with Walrein because she too can set up Toxic Spikes while absorbing them on entry. Meanwhile she boasts a 4x Grass resistance unlike Nidoqueen helping her absorb hits for Walrein. Because Walrein is weak to all entry hazards, while being absolutely crippled by Toxic Spikes, she appreciates Rapid Spin support even more thn the average hazard weak Pokemon. Should you use Xatu as a pseudo-spinner keep in mind she has many overlapping weaknesses with Walrein such as Rock and Electric while being unable to very effectively abuse its resistances. After set up Walrein is particularly difficult to break with more offensive teams but if they have certain Pokemon who can break Walrein's Substitue Protect cycle you should be wary of setting up even if it seems like you have a "free" turn. [Other Options] <p>Choice Specs takes advantage of Walrein's decent Special Attack, but is outclassed by Glaceon. Thick Fat can be used to give Walrein a resistance to Fire-type attacks, but Walrein cannot take advantage of all the passive recovery. Walrein has other interesting support moves such as Encore or Yawn, but has a hard time fitting them in any sets.</p> Skeleton Choice Specs would take advantage of Walrein's actually very good Special Attack but it is mostly outclassed by Glaceon who is far stronger. Thick Fat is a cool ability should you be operating outside of hail in which case you can use other support moves like Encore or Yawn. But generally any set outside of Substitute+Protect hail stall has much less utility and is outclassed by something else. [Checks and Counters] <p>Cincinno and Rhyperior can use Rock Blast to break Walrein's Substitute and damage it, but both take heavy damage from Blizzard. Bisharp holding Leftovers can set up on Walrein while avoiding poison, negating hail damage, and resisting Blizzard. Cobalion can also do this while threatening a super efective Close Combat, but must beware the Special Defense drops. No Steel-type directly fears Walrein, however; they can potentially be phazed and stalled. Bulky Shed Skin Scrafty can set up Bulk Ups while healing status and hits Walrein for super effective with its Fighting-type STAB. Hazards make Walrein unable to take powerful attacks such as Darmanitan's Flare Blitz or Flygon's Outrage. Defensive teams have an easier time against Walrein. Umbreon can heal status with Heal Bell and health with Wish. Resttalk Snorlax, while rare, takes little from Blizzard and can phaze with Whirlwind, but Walrein can predict this and phaze with Roar before Snorlax.</p> Skeleton It is extremely difficult to counter Walrein with an offensive Pokemon once he gets going but there are a few ways to break the not-so-endless stalling cycle. Cincinno can heavily damage Walrein while breaking his Substitute with Rock Blast as can Rhyperior but both take heavy damage from Blizzard while they cannot OHKO Walrein back. Leftovers Bisharp cannot be Poisoned and takes no net hail damage while be able to badly damage Walrein or even set up on him; actually any Pokemon holding Leftovers while not being weak to Blizzard can usually beat Walrein if they are not Poisoned. Bulk Up Scrafty can practically ignore status while easily sponging a Blizzard or two and then proceed to set up or at the very least break Walrein's Subsitutes. Setting up hazards limits weakens Walrein so he cannot set up on as many attackers like Choice Band Flygon and Choice Scarf Darmanitan. Defensive teams have a somewhat easier time as they can simply heal off the residual damage Walrein inflicts on them with Umbreon or another Wish user while also generally being able to spin away hazards. hilarious taking breaks and stuff __________________ \|UU Hub\|Work\| Last edited by Ace Emerald; Jun 2nd, 2013 at 10:43:41 PM.