Originally Posted by Fat Crispy
Good point. I'd also vouch for Sheer Cold becoming a 55 Acc freeze move
Any suggestions/replacements/hate mail?
Originally Posted by Fat Nollan
The big things with freeze are A) it's basically the same thing as sleep, but added to moves that damage, hence making it very game-changing (I should tell you, my Jellicent beat a Blissey through freeze in OU once), and B) it is very unpredictable, meaning that sometimes the pokemon unfreeze instantly, and sometimes (like in the Blissey case) the pokemon is frozen for 5 or more consecutive turns. Even more notable is the lack of a "Freeze Clause", meaning unlike sleep, you cannot be immune to freeze after one pokemon gets frozen (this may seem insignificant, but I have seen unlucky cases when one pokemon is frozen, switches, and the switch-in is frozen the following turn). To honestly revive freeze w/o making it so dynamic, we would probably have to introduce it as a pure status move, like sleep, and nerf its effects, something I am well convinced we won't and shouldn't do. I will agree with Magolor that we should leave it as is, though on another note, Sheer Force does have an issue w/ the likes of Thunderbolt and Flamethrower, etc, which have their effects removed as well. And for those who REALLY like freeze, look up Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, in it, the effects of freeze are much cooler, both figuratively and literally.
You know these posts actually got me thinking;
What if you just make Freeze status basicly the same Sleep.
Turn Sheer Cold into Freeze varitation of Spore and the only move to cause Freeze.
Tada, ice pokemons became just a little bit more attractive.
And talking about ice, any plans on ice as a type itself getting some buffings? Cause the type itself is pretty weak defensive wise with only 1 resistance and 4 weaknesses making many ice mons really unattractive. It really could do with something to give it a little 'unf' when you think about it balance wise.