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Originally Posted by Fat Silenced Melody
You need to remember that Haxorus gains access to both SD and DD, two valuable set-up moves that Kyurem-B would desperately like to have.
252 +1 Atk Life Orb Haxorus Outrage vs 252 HP/252 Def Skarmory (+Def) : 35.63% - 41.92%
3-4 hits to KO (with Leftovers)
2-3 hits to KO (with Leftovers)
252 Atk Choice Band Kyurem-B (+Atk) Outrage vs 252 HP/252 Def Skarmory (+Def) : 33.53% - 39.52%
3-4 hits to KO (with Leftovers)
Obviously you'd use Fusion Bolt on Kyurem-B on a Skarmory instead, but this is just a comparison. Haxorus also has the ability to solidly 2HKO at +1 with Aqua Tail in the rain and the ability to OHKO Ferrothorn at +1 with Super Power (and Low Kick after rocks I think. Can't check that).
Kyurem-B and Haxorus are quite similar in my opinion - One boasts a huge attack (and better SpA) with no set up while the other demolishes walls when set up.
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Even with set up, Haxorus still isn't very good. Haxorus can use Swords Dance and may be able to kill, what, one Pokemon before something faster comes in and revenge kills it? It gets even worse when talking about Dragon Dance, when you consider Hax needs two of them in order to not get reveng killed by powerful Scarfers. It's the same issue I've always had with DD Salamence and QD Volcarona; they need to set up at least twice if they don't want revenge killed. Base 100 Speed isn't what it used to be, and base 97 for Haxorus is even worse. Honestly, I'd rather just give up on all of Haxorus' fancy bells and whistles and use Kyubey to just straight-up kill shit.