I actually agree with being allowed to publicly discuss whatever you want.
Note this however: unless you are 100% civil, 100% reasonable, and 100% willing to provide logic based on justification past your personal preferences for a metagame, you won't be acknowledged.
This of course means acting like mob crazies and ganging up on people like I witnessed in the "conversation" today in #pokemon...where (for I won't name names) pocket was banned simply for disagreeing with the current mob's opinion.
So yea, ask the OU mods nicely if you can have reasonable discourse about whatever suspects you want, and I'm sure something can get worked out.
Also, for what it's worth: [20:52:30] <&aldaron> for the record, once bw2 came around, before we banned genesect, i supported revisiting my proposal
[20:52:34] <&aldaron> but it didnt gain traction
[20:52:47] * ChouToshio (~choutoshi@synIRC-44B85AAF.hawaii.res.rr.com) has joined #pokemon
[20:53:07] <&aldaron> ive publicly stated that i felt we already at the limit of banning components of rain in bw1, and banning more components to make it ok was going past my subjective line
Also, I find it very disappointing, kd24, that instead of approaching me about your "transparency concerns" (you've never approached me personally), you decided to voice the standard not-involved-smogon's-policy-individual's go to talking point: transparency!
I have always been 100% forthcoming with any decisions made behind closed doors, as anyone who has actually dealt with me in policy will attest to.
Hint guys: you want to make the top more malleable to your ideas? Topics like this are not the way to do it.
Originally Posted by Fat ala
I'm not trying to bash the Council here, but the idea of 5 people making the decision for so many is clearly not working. I'd rather have a system where the users vote on which suspects they want to test, with the Council having final say in extreme circumstances.
Are you serious? This is what I'm talking about lol. No, we'll never have the option for the suspect voters to pick the suspects. That will never happen. You guys got a suspect - council hybrid, stop trying to claw for more. Don't blame the system for the metagame when the issue is clearly a metagame saturated with top level offensive threats: note even if you ban Rain / Sun, you'll have the DPP issues of Dragons, hazards HO, and the like. It never stops. Stop being so completely and utterly shortsighted.