[magic9mushroom]

Originally Posted by Fat Crystal_

The biggest overall mistake was they way you deal with Tauros. You should ALWAYS paralyze it if given the chance. Trying to play around it with Hyper beam and Blizzard predictions and stuff often leads to very bad news. ALL teams struggle to beat Tauros, it's a matter of how you play against it (or who gets luckier in a tauros ditto?).

Yeah, I should have paraed it the one chance I did get.

I didn't understand very well what happened between turns 11 and 13. Even if he predicted that you'll switch out, why not put to sleep whatever comes in? He probably wasn't even running SP to begin with, but I don't think so either because that would mean he was running no sleeper. Whatever.

I didn't understand it either, so that makes two of us. I'm just going off what he said.

This is a very small thing, but in the turn 2, you did the hardest thing, which is predicting he'll switch out, but then, if you are sure he was going to switch out, why not go to egg directly? Pretty sure it's better than doing 19% to lax and risking body slam(s) in the switch-in, even if that 10% freeze chance is there.

I thought he'd go to Egg to sleep me.

And you're kinda overdoing the praise for predicting that Starmie switches out of Chansey. That's like RBY 101.

Another minor thing, but turn 9 was the perfect opportunity to get your egg in safely and attempt to wake up. He could've stayed in and tried to land sleep later, but at least egg would've waken up, and at least you would've been able to use one of zam or egg the rest of the battle, since you basically had to sac Egg against Tauros (or you just misplayed it idk).

I did misplay it.

Redemption probably makes the biggest misplay when he sacces Chansey to your Snorlax when he had Starmie for the full wall.

Yes. However, while it's a riskier play, his Chansey had a better chance to freeze my Lax - Starmie runs out of Blizzard rather rapidly, and then can't do anything other than PP stall it.

I don't think exchanging paralysis between starmies was a misplay from his part though, since he had no better option to deal with your starmie, and he could also take advantage from paralysing your starmie. (meh, if it seems like i'm trying to show that i'm the best talking about everybody's misplays, i'm not, i'm just trying to help, it's a lot easier to catch mistakes after the battle is done that when you are playing it, you know).

It wasn't a misplay on his part, but nevertheless I had literally no way to get past his Starmie unless it was paralysed. Going with Chansey might at least have paralysed Tauros switching in, I suppose.

I must say though, it was funny to see that both of you were running no Tbolt on Starmie. Don't think this is a good idea. I don't think running double stab instead of tbolt is worth it. Slowbro gonna enjoy that. Having said that, Surf is arguably more useful in Starmie than Psychic overall. Spc falls are a very situational thing.

We weren't running double STAB (both of us had Blizzard), and I had a means to force Slowbro out (my Lax can stall it out of Surf).

And yes, they're indeed a very situational thing.

The thing about Starmie, basically, is that it can either be STABless, give a free switch-in to Egg, give a free switch-in to Lapras/Cloyster/Gengar, or be running Blizzard/Psychic. Blizzard/Psychic also works very nicely as an anti-lead (which is what Redemption was using it as) because it deals SE damage to both Egg and Gar before taking sleep.

And if you want one last tip, run Tauros. No reason not to :)

Over what, you think?