Originally Posted by Fat Lavos Spawn
just to debunk some more idiotic claims, i've been hearing a lot of "thundurus-t is a great check to tornadus-t, it can switch in and begin to set up on rain's face!"
252 SpA Life Orb Tornadus Hurricane vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Thundurus-T: 149-176 (49.66 - 58.66%) -- 99.61% chance to 2HKO
no, no it cannot.
Originally Posted by Fat Ginganinga
Thundurus-T gets 2KOed and Jirachi hates SR + Hurricane + U+Turn
Yes, thundy takes 49-58%, and then proceeds to outspeed and either ko with volt switch or gain momentum with the scarf it is most obviously holding (252 SpAtk Thundurus Volt Switch vs 0 HP/0 SpDef Tornadus-T: 82.27% - 97.32%).
And if it is not holding a scarf, why the fuck would tornadus stay in to risk it considering it is likely thundy's most used set?
Again, assuming that the tornadus player is godlike and the opponent sucks does not make for a good argument.
And by the way...
252 SpAtk Life Orb Tornadus-T Hurricane vs 252 HP/0 SpDef Jirachi: 28.22% - 33.17%
0 Atk Life Orb Tornadus-T U-turn vs 252 HP/0 Def Jirachi: 16.34% - 19.31%
Jirachi truly does not mind sitting behind a sub at 50% (after 2 leftovers, etc.) considering the switch in is probably going to get paralyzed or set up on.