Originally Posted by Fat Tacit
So, arguing that Torn isn't broken seems hopeless as everyone seems to have their mind set on banning it. (Looks like I have to find a new team slot :P) Also tbh, the SpD Jirachi that I use on the team seems more broken than the Tornadus most of the time, since it paralyzes everything allowing my slower members like Politoed to actually do something. Also Scarfeo clean up sweeps way better than Tornadus, IMO.
Anyway, was Thundurus-I more broken than Tornadus-T? Or do you think it was only banned first because everyone recognized it as being dangerous from the previous BW1 metagame?
Also, just to have some sort of relevance in this post, I might as well include my opinion on Keldeo. Keldeo isn't broken at all, way too many counters exist for it, and it is almost always choice locked (with the CM set not being broken to begin with anyway).
Thundurus was declared broken primarily because of the fact that it was practically thundurus-t... except could outspeed latios/ponies/etc.
Plus priority passives and such
And nasty plot+great coverage