Thread: OU Soul Silver Team
View Single Post
Old Jan 1st, 2013, 5:20:29 PM   #6
TomX159
 
TomX159's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 37
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat snaptime View Post
I already made a few changes since my last post, so I thought this would be a good time to post them. Slaking -> Scizor
@Adamant 252HP/40Attack/216SpDef - (Occa Berry)
Swords Dance
Bullet Punch
Bug Bite
Light Screen

Metagross took reflect instead of light screen to protect from earthquake attacks which are more common on lead move sets.
Gyarados has Stone Edge instead of Ice Fang
Gengar has Hypnosis instead of W-o-W

I see the electric type weakness, and I was thinking of switching Togekiss for Flygon but I saw a bulk differences that I dont really agree with. Still thinking about it though. I dont think Julteon would be that hard to deal with since it cant really harm metagross to much and I could EQ it. And if I have a Gyrados set up early with one DD I could EQ it as well.
As for Jirachi I was kind of making this a non-legendary team but I will make the switch for Jirachi in an alternative version of this team that includes OU legendarys.

edit* maybe also switching Gyarados -> Gliscor would also help with electric types? Would it fit my team well?
Jolteon and Rotom will still be hard, if not impossible to deal with. Life Orb Jolteon 2HKO's Metagross so you can't switch in on it, which lets Jolteon kill any of your other pokemon before Metagross can come in freely. And even then Jolteon can just switch out and will just run through your team later. Same exact thing with Rotom, but you can't Earthquake Rotom with Metagross because Rotom's ability is Levitate.

Reflect is a waste of a move on Metagross, and same with Light Screen on Scizor. The only leads that have Earthquake are other Metagross, Aerodactyl, Swampert, Hippowdon, and MAYBE Bronzong. In regard against other Metagross, the EV spread I provided in my previous post lets you Earthquake them as they Earthquake you which shows them you’re faster and it’ll scare them off on the next turn so you can set up free Stealth Rock. The lead Metagross set I provided also beats Aerodactyl by using Bullet Punch twice. Aerodactyl NEVER Earthquakes off the first turn unless they’re bluffing a suicide lead but that set is extremely uncommon so Bullet Punching twice will always beat it. As for Swampert, Hippowdon, and Bronzong, they are 3 of the few leads that Metagross can’t kill. But in all cases you can set up Stealth Rock on the first turn as they do and then you can switch out. If you're extremely paranoid about Earthquake you can put on a Shucka Berry to half Earthquake's damage on Metagross.

Getting Gyarados a Dragon Dance just to deal with Electric types isn’t a good enough failsafe because +1 Gyara can still be forced out or killed by 2 very common defensive walls, Skarmory and Vaporeon. Almost all of the Electric abusers can run a Choice Scarf anyways and be faster than +1 Gyara forcing it out yet again.

In regards to Scizor, he should be replaced with a Snorlax as I suggested because he doesn’t really have anything to bring to the table besides a weakish Bullet Punch without a Swords Dance, while Snorlax provides a check to Electric users.

Stone Edge is fine on Gyarados but it should still have Leftovers instead of a Shell Bell and Waterfall over Aqua Tail.

Hypnosis is fine on Gengar as it’s less predictable but it should still have Shadow Ball somewhere on the move set and Substitute + Life Orb is ill-advised without Pain Split.

In regards to Jirachi, the metagame doesn’t care about whether or not there are legendaries it only cares if the pokemon is either too powerful or “broken” aka Wobbafett, Salamence, and Garchomp.

I don’t see Gliscor working well with this team because the main pokemon who use Electric moves (Jolteon, Rotom, Zapdos, Starmie, Azelf, Magnezone, Electivire, hell even Lanturn and Nidoking) all have a coverage move such as Surf/Hydro Pump or Hidden Power Ice/Ice Beam which will OHKO Gliscor.

Hope this insight helped.

Last edited by TomX159; Jan 1st, 2013 at 5:32:21 PM.
TomX159 is offline