[Hemp Man]

Originally Posted by Fat Lucchini

I'm not saying that Teddiursa needs to go down; what I'm saying is that Tauros's supposed flaw (5% encounter rate) is not much of a flaw at all. If we are consistent with punishing things for availability and challenging catch rates, then not only does Gyarados go down (it wouldn't exactly be its only glaring weakness) from Top, but all of the odd egg exclusives, some of whom are in Mid (once again, not suggesting that they drop) should be in Bottom because the effort and time needed to get the right one you want and and train it up to be useable are quite ridiculous.



Precisely, we're not exactly so afraid of Primeape that we'd bring a Gastly just for him. Gastly can be bred all of those moves to slowly kill things that it's immune to, which is pretty much the point here. Snorlax is the only exception since it's actually really tough to take down (imagine if it had Curse), but you should have more than one way of dealing with it at reasonably efficient levels.

Gyarados being top tier is alright once you factor in what a great him slave it is