[shrapn3l]

well i dunno about all of that but i would definitely put it above skarm (and do what i said before, moving skarm celebi and suicune into their own tier) gengar is/always has been pretty incredible in dp, zapdos is probably the second best thing in gsc now which would in a sense tie it with celebi at its peak dominance essentially, and zapdos and gengar both have their top tier rby status to consider. i can understand the logic that everyone is following but it seems that if there was a consensus it was unspoken (nobody said anything about this since jellicent said that pokemon that were unbanned like dp salamence were eligible for consideration). i just want to make sure there's consistency here.