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Originally Posted by Fat Hack He Must
+2 252+ Atk Silk Scarf Arceus-Normal ExtremeSpeed vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Fighting: 279-328 (62.83 - 73.87%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Not really. I suppose you mean max hp by bulky variants. I have never seen an impish Fighceus, that would be wasteful.
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As long as he can come on Arceus and take Extrem Speed LO
after he used Sword Dance and still being alive is something i can call "taking ES all day" since you are coming on the turn he use SD. If he try to kill you without it, you are still taking
33.56 - 40.09%, which is far too low even with double max damage, one layer of spikes and stealth rock.
Also, you don't need to be impish to be bulky, I think you already know that, let's skip to your next argument.
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Originally Posted by Fat Hack He Must
Koing it all day?
4 SpA Fist Plate Arceus-Fighting Judgment (Fighting) vs. 232 HP / 32 SpD Arceus-Normal: 254-300 (57.85 - 68.33%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Not really. I don't what set you are running, but I assume standard utility counter. Will o wisp is not a reliable way of checking E-killer. A quote from a friend of mine.
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My Fightceus is doing
71.96 - 85.35% with Judgement, which is enough to kill him with one layer of spikes, stealth rock and one turn of Life Orb (well actually, you need to do 72% since you are peaking to 99% if you do a min damage, w/e).
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Originally Posted by Fat Hack He Must
Fightceus is okay, but not the best E-killer check in the game.
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As you can see with my previous arguments, Fightceus is one of the best offensive check for EKceus since he can come on him, take a hit with double layer of entry hazards and still fire back with a Judgement who cut both of his arm. In the worst case, you die along with him, but we are talking about Arceus so yeah, it's obviously a big threat who need some preparation before trying to take him one-on-one.
Now, I bet you are thinking "where this calcs come from ? I dont have the same numbers", well, it's called
Teambuilding. I used my own spread which came from a team I built during BW1 on Fightceus since he was incredibly strong during this meta pollued by rainstall, he is still an excellent Arceus type, even though Lugia&Ho-Oh new ability hurt him a lot. Look at your spread in the calcs, they are all (or almost) 252/252/4. When you build a team, you have to make sure your spreads are suited for your team, not just taking a random 252/252/4 or a spread from the analysis without testing it like a deadbrain. Adjust it, change it so it allow you to take / do enough damage for what you have to do.
I didnt quoted your argument about better defensive typing, there is no reason to compare Fightceus, Lugia, Giratina and anyone else, they are not the same. Fightceus is a bulky mons who can act as a sweeper, the 2 other are pure stallers.
Peace and have a nice day.