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Originally Posted by Fat alexwolf

Again, this is what the Fire Spin set does:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=221

And obviously what it has over Heatran is that it doesn't need Heatran, in other words it tries to win the weather war by spending only one team slot.

But Heatran is near staple status on Sun teams. He sets up SR, sponges Dracos, and Magmatraps rain threats. I'd much rather(and do) just use Heatran for trapping, considering he's so much better at it.