[Limitless]

Originally Posted by Fat blarajan

I'm more inclined to think that there are no viable suspects for this round. This comes from the idea that Nidoqueen, when a suspect, was voted to remain in RU in a metagame that was significantly better for it. However, in this current metagame, with the rerelease of Hail into RU, Nidoqueen's effectiveness has basically dropped. Before, there were practically no Ice-type attacks floating around, the most common of which being Cryogonal's Ice Beam. However, the release of Hail introduced an archetype of team that capitalizes on Nidoqueen's previously unused weakness. Pokemon such as Snover, Rotom-F, Glaceon, Walrein, Piloswine, Vanilluxe, and Cryogonal are significantly more popular in this metagame--all of which have attacks that OHKO Nidoqueen. Furthermore, due to Hail, popular Pokemon that gave Nidoqueen trouble, such as Entei, Slowking, and Emboar have all risen in popularity to deal with that new threat. All of these Pokemon hurt Nidoqueen a lot as well, all of which OHKOing with the respective set (though Slowking can't when using a bulky one). I do not believe Nidoqueen, in a metagame that is significantly less hospitable to it than the one it was voted to remain in, is a viable suspect for that reason. When teambuilding, I have even sometimes started considering Nidoqueen a liability, as it is fodder for Hail teams. It is still a fantastic Pokemon, don't get me wrong. This metagame is just much harder for it than the last one. It's definitely not broken in this one, assuming people thought it was in the last one.

fuck silentverse

I think you're fundamentally looking at this the wrong way. Essentially, you're looking at the weak spots and just picking apart Nidoqueen. The issue with that is you're ignoring what Nidoqueen does best - put heavy pressure on stall. If stall is not viable due to Nidoqueen dominating that playstyle, then in my opinion, it should be banned. The real question you need to be answering in your post is whether or not Nidoqueen dominates stall, not what stops Nidoqueen. Everyone knows that Nidoqueen isn't the fastest and that hail fucks it over. The root of why Nidoqueen would be overpowered strictly lies in its ability to block another playstyle out of contention.