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Old Jan 18th, 2013, 8:41:44 AM   #6
Neliel
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Interesting team you have there. Its really nice to see Sandslash getting some love. Grats on the peak, however, i feel like some of your choice are questionable.
First, as all the other raters said, Rapid spin should be your preferred move on Sandslash. Im not saying that sandslash is good at spinning, because it isnt, excadrill was good because it forced out people with its steel typing, and sandslash is just weak... but still rapid spin is way better than X-scizzor. I cant think of anything else honestly other than Celebi that you want to hit with Xscizzor, in the description you said "it helps with rain teams" but i cant understand why. Its good to have an another way to deal with it, but i think that ill change something else to deal with celebi even better. Anyway, You are not even weak to grass type, and two breloom checks are enough, also xscizzor fails to ko it anyway. Celebi is easily pursuitted by ttar that lacks of Baton pass. So, in conclusion, rapid spin maybe sucks on Sandslash because its frail, but still its a better option than X-scizzor.

Now i would like to switch the role of Latios and keldeo. I know its a bit standard, but ill explain why you need to do so. First, some of the things you said in the descriptions are wrong. Venusaur actually outspeeds Scarf latios anyway, if you are facing modest venusaur then you are lucky, because honestly i dont see reasons not to run timid Venusaur since the point of clorophill is to outspeed things. To deal with venu, you just need to pursuitkill Ninetales avoiding the burn, which is not hard i guess. Also, Keldeo actually outspeeds Stoutland, Dragonite, and Modest Venusaur anyway. With the scarf Keldeo reaches 519 speed, while dragonite, Stoutland and Modest venusaur are outspeed anyway by one point, since they reach 518 speed.
Its not only that, you actually need your latios to stay alive longer. Since you only have 2 water resistors without recovery, some rain offense spamming hydro pump can easily weaken your Keldeo/latios. Also, Latios is your best pokemon to check Landorus and Thundurus, so if you try to run a Recover Lo set you can stick it longer to check them. Not to mention that Scarf Latios is actually a pursuit bait for Scizor and Tyranitar, which sucks since you need it to revenge kill stuff, and with life orb you can at least hit them with Surf. Also, you were probably going to do Draco meteor to everything to do significant damages, which sucks sicne the drop lets a lot of sweeper set up for free. Lo latios also helps a bit facing Celebi, who dont like tanking Dmeteors, as well as Breloom, since you are kinda obsessed by it. In other hand, Scarf keldeo is just as good as Scarf Latios at revenge killing things, so you should not be worry about that. The set you should on Latios is the standard Recover / Psyshock / Draco meteor / Surf, while on Keldeo Surf / Hydro pump / Hidden power Ice / Secret Sword.

Now, an another little nitpick, Heatran can actually stop Volcarona, Metagross, and in general the special defensive set can catch some of your pokemon switching in with Toxic or something like that, which sucks. Its not like you are weak to Heatran, but lets say that if you unluckily got your tyranitar burned by lava plume before you can attack heatran, you are going to do less damage to it, so you will have to switch it into something else to ko it. So i would say that a spread on tyranitar that can outspeed it should be fine, you dont have to invest that much, 140 evs are enough to outspeed all the special defensive Heatran with 8 evs in speed, so that you can smash it with stone edge before a possible burn.

Thats it i guess, thanks for sharing this team, i will probably try it with something else over Metagross (yes, i would suggest you a jirachi or something else, but you dont want to change it so ill not waste time) to see how it works. Luvdisc'd.
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