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Old Jan 18th, 2013, 8:23:55 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Fat BurningMan View Post
I am not sure if the SD Set really deserves a set it faces just too much competition from Breloom i see the point that the initially higher base speed and better bulk make it easier to set-up/force things out, but if it's gonna get written up i think you should put an emphasis on what it can do that breloom can't do better.

IMO CM sounds like a really nice set right now especially with Tornadus-T banned to ubers, it works great against a lot of common rain pokemon much like in late BW thanks to its great typing and special bulk and contrary to the SD set it doesn't cares about scald.

Take Synthesis out of OO its terrible in a meta game full of rain and sand teams and Virzion isn't really a good pokemon on sun teams so i really see no use for it especially when it gets giga drain for recovery.

Dual Screens are outclassed and often better done by things like Espeon/ Lati@s etc. you could mention that it gets it but explain that there are usually better choices (also i have never ever seen anybody who uses DS Virzion and that propably has a reason).

Also neither chansey nor Blissey can actually wall virzion they can toxic/T-Wave Virzion but CM Variants can 2HKO both with FB at +1 with LO IIRC so they aren't really checks or counters in any sense.

I am not sure about substitute on the SD set the only real use i see is too protect from Scald burns and 90% of the pokemon that use scald won't stay in on Virzion and Virzion really needs the 3rd coverage move since it gets walled by way too much things otherwise especially dangerous things like Volcarona, Dragonite, Thundurus-T and Salamence and you don't really want to give one of them a free turn.

I don't really see why suicune gets a special mention as a team mate because i actually see nothing that suicune can do that isn't done better by the OU Water types like Jellicent,Tentacurel, Vaporeon, Keldeo or Rotom-W.

I am not 100% sure about this but i think you may need some SpA EVs to get the OHKO on Gliscor with HP Ice on the SD set.
Thanks for the feedback! I edited it with a couple of changes. I talked with someone I know and decided to move the SD set to the 2nd set. Also, I moved Sub to the OO. I took your feedback and mentioned that dual screens get outclassed and removed the comment of Suicune. SpA EV's are needed to get a guaranteed OHKO on Gliscor but there still is a chance to KO without investment.
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