Well, my torterra set has been underwhelming so far, and has really only been successful in 1/16 matches with the team I'm using. Just the raw initial attacking power isn't there, I really havent used sd, and it's bulk can actually be a problem, as it always seems like it lives to around 31-35% before being killed, which sometimes doesn't activate overgrow and certainly not the berry. I may be using it wrong though, as it is most likely should be used as a bulky revenge killer, but with my offensive team, it really cannot compete. The 1 sweep i had was great, as I outsped his charizard. Maybe sub over sd isnt such a bad idea. Also, the edgequake coverage on torterra is really handy, especially against altaria
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