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Originally Posted by Fat gene
lol what the hell are nidoqueen and jumpluff doing in uu
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Jumpluff used to be OU but Hip dropped it when he futzed with the old-gen tiers for no particular reason a couple years ago.
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Originally Posted by Fat Jorgen
I'd hesitate to call Nidoqueen all that overpowering. It's a good mon, of course, but certainly beatable if you take time to prepare for it when teambuilding. If anything it's just disappointing that it's basically a facet of OU cp'd into UU, which imo isn't really enough of a reason to keep something out of UU.
If anything it's just disappointing that it's basically a facet of OU cp'd into UU, which imo isn't really enough of a reason to keep something out of UU.
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It is if your reason for playing UU is to avoid seeing the same OU shit all day, which is basically how current-gen UU operates on this site. The precedent, as far as the Nidos are concerned, is that they are treated separately (different tiers in DPP and BW2) but I can understand why people wouldn't want Nidoqueen in UU.
Just because something is OU doesn't mean UU can't beat it anyway, I mean that much is obvious if you just substitute Nidoking for Nidoqueen. ;[ What does Nidoking do that Nidoqueen doesn't, outspeed Gyarados? Do an extra 3% to "average defender?" They have identical typing, virtually identical movesets, and only very minor stat differences. Anything that can handle Nidoqueen will be able to handle Nidoking and vice-versa. The only reason Nidoqueen is UU is
because it's basically Nidoking that doesn't speed tie with Suicune and nobody is using both of them. It's not like each tier is a static power level where all OUs are created equal and all of them are definitively better than everything in UU.