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Old Jan 29th, 2013, 6:55:45 AM   #624
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About Spearow, in addition to what you mentioned, it comes at the exact same levels as Doduo at Route 16 in Red and Blue, not to mention it's nearly twice as common. This, in addition to its earlier evolution (which you mentioned), means it's better than Doduo early on, at least at first glance. Keep in mind, though, that Doduo learns Drill Peck at level 30 as opposed to Fearow's 34, and Doduo also has near-immediate access to a one-turn attack with solid base power in Tri Attack while Fearow has to use either the two-turn Fly or the inconsistent Fury Attack until level 34, by which point you should almost be at Fuchsia City by which point you would have a Dodrio in your possession if you went for Doduo instead.

So I'd guess despite evolving earlier, Doduo still has the edge over Route 16 Spearow due to having a consistent attack that doesn't take two turns to use, not to mention Fearow's and Doduo's Attack stats are pretty similar (90 and 85, respectively). I will concede though, that Fearow's bulk is easily better than Doduo's (even then it's still nothing to write home about), so I'd say Spearow is comfortable where it is in Mid.
Those are just reasons why Doduo is better overall, which I'm aware of. But being worse than Doduo doesn't mean that Spearow can't be High, which is what I'm trying to get at. I dunno, I just see Route 16 Spearow as a powerful and fast attacker with STAB Flying and Normal attacks (it has to use Double-Edge though) that comes at a convenient time, and that seems ok on paper. Maybe I'll test it if I get time...

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As for Yellow Psyduck, I guess it could have an entry if somebody wanted to give it one, but that would most likely mean potentially having to do the same for Yellow Voltorb and Red/Blue Magnemite. I understand why it had to be done for Red Krabby (specifically, because Blue/Yellow Krabby was in High which meant that Red Krabby might've been interpreted by people looking through the list as either Mid or Low), but for cases where a Pokemon in Mid Tier (in other words the second-lowest) in one game and clearly worse in another, (I don't think) an entry would be necessary (outside of completion's sake) as it would be obvious as to what its placement would be.
I don't think Magnemite and Voltorb would get split because they are Mid regardless of version (imo), even if one version is better than the other. I mean, Electabuzz is in Mid, so why would Yellow Voltorb and Red/Blue Magnemite get dropped to Low?

I wouldn't say the tier placement would be "obvious" to someone with limited experience with 1st gen. Besides, the fact that we have already split certain pokemon up by version would imply to players that anything without split entries is in the same tier regardless of version, which I don't think is true with Psyduck. But I guess you disagree.
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