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Diatom · Jan 29th, 2013, 11:19:30 PM

I definitely disagree with Zangoose being moved as well. It's not hard to get the toxic orb boost at all; just Volt Switch or U-turn from something. It can OHKO so much stuff once it's active that it's not even funny, and a lot of other stuff can be KOd with a little prior damage. Its defenses, while not winning any awards, are adequate for a mon of its power, letting it survive non-Mach Punch priority, weak non-STAB moves, and most moves from defensive mons. Although it does get worn down quickly, which IMO is why it is still NU, it just has the raw power to blast through things, and since you will be switching out a lot, the damage shouldn't build up very quickly. In short Zangoose should stay in S-tier

Jan 29th, 2013, 11:19:30 PM	#309
Diatom Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 78 The ocean	I definitely disagree with Zangoose being moved as well. It's not hard to get the toxic orb boost at all; just Volt Switch or U-turn from something. It can OHKO so much stuff once it's active that it's not even funny, and a lot of other stuff can be KOd with a little prior damage. Its defenses, while not winning any awards, are adequate for a mon of its power, letting it survive non-Mach Punch priority, weak non-STAB moves, and most moves from defensive mons. Although it does get worn down quickly, which IMO is why it is still NU, it just has the raw power to blast through things, and since you will be switching out a lot, the damage shouldn't build up very quickly. In short Zangoose should stay in S-tier __________________ TFC was banned by aldaron.