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Conzipe · Feb 5th, 2013, 8:16:29 PM

Zigzagoon @ Oran Berry
Trait: Pickup
Level: 5
EVs: 196 Atk / 188 Def / 108 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Belly Drum
- ExtremeSpeed
- Seed Bomb
- Thief

Whenever you see a zigzagoon, it's most likely going to be this kind of set. The basic idea is to take any hit from the opponents pokemon, live with even a sliver of health, activate oran berry (which restores exactly 50%), use Belly Drum and ExtremeSpeed everything!

The first difference to more common sets is that I don't invest anything into speed and rather put everything in attack and defense. The reason being that it gives zigzagoon a better chance of actually surviving some sort of hit to get of it's belly drum. Also speed investment is usually not going to be very useful, since it still naturally outspeed most of the things it would want to use Seed Bomb against. While ghost types such as Misdreavus, Gastly or Drifloon usually outspeeds no matter how much investment Zigzagoon has. It could still be helpful for a couple of rock-types, however I prefer the extra bulk.

The second difference is Zigzagoon's fourth move, Theif. It might seem like a rather silly choice at first. However if you actually look into Zigzagoon's movepool you will realize there aren't that many better options.
Since you will consume the oran berry whenever Belly Drum is used, you will pretty much always be able to steal an item from the opponent, making it an improved knock off. It's a nice move to nail ghost types with on the switch since it also cripples them, something which seed bomb fails to do.
There are also quite a few pokemon you won't be able to KO with +6 ExtremeSpeed alone. In such situation it's really nice to first steal their eviolite with theif, then continue to KO with ExtremeSpeed. Notice that whenever stealing an eviolite, having some extra defense investment also helps.

It's hardly a fantastic pokemon, but it's very fun to use. I needs proper team support to take care of it's counters before it can attempt to sweep. Have fun Stealing!

Feb 5th, 2013, 8:16:29 PM	#119
Conzipe Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 6 Sweden	Zigzagoon @ Oran Berry Trait: Pickup Level: 5 EVs: 196 Atk / 188 Def / 108 SDef Adamant Nature - Belly Drum - ExtremeSpeed - Seed Bomb - Thief Whenever you see a zigzagoon, it's most likely going to be this kind of set. The basic idea is to take any hit from the opponents pokemon, live with even a sliver of health, activate oran berry (which restores exactly 50%), use Belly Drum and ExtremeSpeed everything! The first difference to more common sets is that I don't invest anything into speed and rather put everything in attack and defense. The reason being that it gives zigzagoon a better chance of actually surviving some sort of hit to get of it's belly drum. Also speed investment is usually not going to be very useful, since it still naturally outspeed most of the things it would want to use Seed Bomb against. While ghost types such as Misdreavus, Gastly or Drifloon usually outspeeds no matter how much investment Zigzagoon has. It could still be helpful for a couple of rock-types, however I prefer the extra bulk. The second difference is Zigzagoon's fourth move, Theif. It might seem like a rather silly choice at first. However if you actually look into Zigzagoon's movepool you will realize there aren't that many better options. Since you will consume the oran berry whenever Belly Drum is used, you will pretty much always be able to steal an item from the opponent, making it an improved knock off. It's a nice move to nail ghost types with on the switch since it also cripples them, something which seed bomb fails to do. There are also quite a few pokemon you won't be able to KO with +6 ExtremeSpeed alone. In such situation it's really nice to first steal their eviolite with theif, then continue to KO with ExtremeSpeed. Notice that whenever stealing an eviolite, having some extra defense investment also helps. It's hardly a fantastic pokemon, but it's very fun to use. I needs proper team support to take care of it's counters before it can attempt to sweep. Have fun Stealing! __________________ If you fail to plan, you plan to fail!