[Pokemazter]

Originally Posted by Fat shrang

(For the mixed attacker)



Just saying, this is speed creep. Tyranitar runs 100 Speed EVs to outspeed 24 Spe Skarmory. You either run enough to outspeed minimum Speed or max Speed in analyses. Pokemazter, I'd just suggest you change this to 252 Atk / 172 SpA / 84 Spe, to outspeed minimum Speed Politoed and Skarmory.

I can do that. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Fat Lavos Spawn

i feel as though the band and scarf sets are barely viable in this day and age...hell, even scarf abomasnow can't outspeed max speed timid starmie and other base 115s which is really pitiful imo. band is still super slow and honestly does not hit that hard, its only real draw is cb ice shard, which packs a punch, but ebelt is better in almost all scenarios as it allows for abomasnow to serve the utility attacker function that a hail offense team needs. i can't find any other flaws with the sets besides what shrang pointed out above me about the speed creep, definitely change that. however i believe that if you just move the choice sets to other options this will be ready for qc checks. getting it on-site should be a high priority.

Which is why I didn't have Choice Band here in the first place. I'll knock those two into OO and do the speed creep edit.

Thanks you two.