[Pokemasta77]

Originally Posted by Fat Good_Luck!

Relying on AncientPower to boost speed is shaky, specially if you are running 0 EVs on speed. Togepi starts at 8 speed wich outspeeds... nothing, not even Standard Hippopotas or non-Gyro Ball Bronzor. That's LAME because at +1 Speed you are at 12 which outspeeds walls but you are not flinching to death 'mons with reliable recovery (almost all usable pokemon on low speed benchmarks). At +2 you are at 16 which outspeeds good 'mons but that means you have to hit +2 on AncientPower and that can be hard as most good players will often switch their Fighting-types on Togepi; Mienfoo can potentially beat you IF the opponent gets lucky, Scraggy won't be hit by Extrasensory, Timburr has Mach Punch to bypass the flinch, many unused Fighting-types are Scarfed and Riolu will Protect/Sub to scout. Psychic with that BIG chance of SpD drop is better IMO. 20% is good chance but not THAT good.

On the Nasty Plot set, I don't think Psychic is good, again because of the uninvestment and because it offers you no coverage at all. Hyper Voice, Flamethrower and Shadow Ball are all a necessity to achieve perfect coverage on most threats. Running no Speed EVs on something that's supposed to sweep is bad, you won't get far with a speed of 8 as you'll take a hit to even set up and another one to hit anything, which means your sweep is ending before it even starts. Anything can 2HKO Togepi with that spread (except for support 'mons like Chikorita or Duskull).

Physically Defensive and Specially defensive are exactly the same with just a different focus. Body Slam with 60% chance of paralysis is better than Psychic as Togepi should NOT stay into Fighting-types at all with 0 Speed EVs as even the slowest of them, Timburr, will naturally otspeed you (with a -Spe Nature!) before you even have a chance of throwing wish or Psychic.

I think Togepi's place is not attacking, although it actually hits things hard at +2, I concede that. Its speed is really low so you MUST use Body Slam and/or Thunder Wave to make up for that. I think Defensive Togepi has a good niche in spreading paralysis on all 'mons in the tier (except, obv, for Limber). A set with Wish/Protect/Thunder Wave/Body Slam would be good, IMO.

Maybe Softboiled|Morning Sun/Thunder Wave/Body Slam/Toxic|AncientPower. Softboiled is a 3rd gen tutor which is incompatible with AncientPower but Morning Sun is a low PP move tutor in BW2 which is legal with AncientPower.

The First set is really weird and I honestly think that's a gimmick... It could potentially win you matches if you are lucky enough.

BTW, switching non-Shed Skin Scraggy into Bronzor was a bad move because of the Toxic risk, that made harder the game. And your team is really Scraggy weak :).

I will edit this when I get on my computer. Dont worry, that is not my team. I just picked the first pokemon that came to mind. I just needed a team to test the sets.