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Originally Posted by Fat jc104
Because Fire is the only type that really benefits from sun, maybe? This was assuming that the ability field was to be used for something else of course. If we can find another way around that I can see a whole host of different types being used.
Grass IS one of the more common OU types. It's in the top half as far as usage is concerned, which seems like enough evidence to me. It's only one behind fighting according to the approximate calculation near the bottom of page 1. While I don't think it's an especially GOOD type, that was not specified in the concept either. In fact, boosting a common but not good type seems to be boosting a type that is underservedly overused, as in what most people mean when they say overused outside the pokemon world. That's the worst possible thing to do.
I think it's highly unlikely that we'll not be attempting to reduce the usage of water types. Using a water type is likely to increase the usage of water types. Simply replacing water types with other ones is also a massive sidestep, and doesn't even adhere to the wording of the concept. As far as I can tell from talking to people, they are not keen to use one of the three most used types in order to take on the other two. Again, that seems rather against the spirit of the concept.
However, to count the usage of the CAP as an underused type just allows us to do more with our CAP. It doesn't have to count equally, of course, but I don't see why we shouldn't boost a second underused type by using it, instead of trying to boost only one.
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There are other ways weather can benefit a typing - Rock and Ground types effectively lose their Water type weakness in the sun for example, and Grass types get a single turn STAB Solarbeam (although yes, Politoed/Ttar/Hippo/Abomasnow switchins will ruin their lives). If CAP 5 were to be a Sunmon, its typing is far from a foregone conclusion is all I'm saying.
Touche as far as Grass type usage is concerned, I had it in my head that it didn't have so much of a presence, and stand corrected.
I don't really disagree that Water is the probable target. What effect CAP5 would have on the usage of the targeted type(s) if it itself were to adopt them is debatable - and doesn't really bear discussion until the typing stage anyway, so it's a moot point for now. Let's agree to disagree eh ;)
And if all you meant by counting CAP5's usage as a boost was that it could represent a wholly separate underused type, then sure, why not - although it's kind of incidental to the main concept don't you think?