[jas61292]

So, between the huge amount of irc discussion and the first few posts here, Grass/Dragon has been brought up a lot so far. I want to take a bit to express my concerns about this type. First off, and most importantly, one of the big points that people have been using in favor of this typing is that it can be used to beat other Dragons who give sun a lot of trouble. The biggest concern here is that using a dragon to beat dragons is difficult to do. Dragon hits super effectively right back and have giant attacking stats to back it up. If you are to use a Dragon to beat a dragon you are going to need to hit it before it hits you, with significant power. To me, this would be making serious assumptions which would be bordering on (if not outright) poll jumping.

Secondly, I don't even see this working. Even if it does beat Dragons, it is a Dragon itself. For it to do its job there need to be Dragons. Any decrease in dragon usage will just be because of an increase in CAP 5 usage. Dragon replaces Dragon and we fail to really do anything. Additionally, if it is as good at beating dragons as some of the discussion I have seen would lead me to believe people want, it will not just be used on sun teams. It will be used on all teams. Being used outside of sun is fine, but simply becoming the Dragon of OU instead of some of the current ones does nothing to help the concept.

Additionally, I feel that of the other arguments outside of Dragons in favor of this typing, most are simply anti rain, not pro sun. Beating rain is OK, don't get me wrong, beating rain is fine, but it alone is not a way to complete this concept. Besides, sun already has a plethora of Grass types that can fufil this role just as well if not better. Double weakness to Ice means it cannot reliably beat most common water types of rain despite its double resistance. The inability to touch Ferrothorn doesn't hurt.

Overall, though, I just don't think this typing can really do what we want to do without making major assumptions at this point as to stats and movepool.

That being said I don't want this post to be completely negative, so I will say that I very much agree with capefeather's suggestion of some sort of Dark type. I don't have too much to add to what he said at this point, but I do believe that by specifically targeting the Pokemon that most threaten sun. While I aim is to decreas usage of types themselves, this is likely better achieved by going after specific member than by trying to make a catch all Dragon stop, or something to that effect.