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Chou Toshio · Dec 5th, 2007, 6:01:45 PM

Jolteon is notable imo just because he's fast with thunder/bolt tm, he's pretty much set. It can be a bitch to hunt down pikachu in Viridian Forest if I recall correctly. Raichu however is probably more effective than Jolteon in the long run against the majority of Gyms/stuff (Mega Punch/Body Slam go surprisingly far). In game, the difference between Raichu & Jolteon's speed is probably trivial-- nothing notable's outrunning you anyway.

Pikachu also gets points for coming early and being at a higher level when you face misty than oddish/belsprout would be so it's great for Squirty/Charmander users. Actually, Ivysaur users too . . .

When you're staring down a Fully Evolved OU Special Sweeper in Misty's Starmie with STAB'd BubbleBeam with no attacks on your team with BP over 40 . . . you need all the help you can get . . . lol

in short:
Pikachu = OU
Jolteon = BL

. . . lol

*note: IMO, Misty is the most broken Gym leader. I mean 100 base SP.ATK and 115 SPEED in the second gym with 60BM STAB against which there are no immunities??? WTF were they thinking?? My trick though was to go catch oddish/belsprout, then spend all my $$ on items and deposit all my other pokes before going to Cerulean Gym. I'd fight Misty again and again, getting experience from beating staryu until Bel/oddish finally was able to beat her. This way you easily add a new member on your team (since Oddish/bel will be the same level/higher by the time it manages to beat Misty).

Dec 5th, 2007, 6:01:45 PM	#15
Chou Toshio Hmmm... A name for the plan... Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,937 Sea Forest	Jolteon is notable imo just because he's fast with thunder/bolt tm, he's pretty much set. It can be a bitch to hunt down pikachu in Viridian Forest if I recall correctly. Raichu however is probably more effective than Jolteon in the long run against the majority of Gyms/stuff (Mega Punch/Body Slam go surprisingly far). In game, the difference between Raichu & Jolteon's speed is probably trivial-- nothing notable's outrunning you anyway. Pikachu also gets points for coming early and being at a higher level when you face misty than oddish/belsprout would be so it's great for Squirty/Charmander users. Actually, Ivysaur users too . . . When you're staring down a Fully Evolved OU Special Sweeper in Misty's Starmie with STAB'd BubbleBeam with no attacks on your team with BP over 40 . . . you need all the help you can get . . . lol in short: Pikachu = OU Jolteon = BL . . . lol note: IMO, Misty is the most broken Gym leader. I mean 100 base SP.ATK and 115 SPEED in the second gym with 60BM STAB against which there are no immunities??? WTF were they thinking?? My trick though was to go catch oddish/belsprout, then spend all my $$ on items and deposit all my other pokes before going to Cerulean Gym. I'd fight Misty again and again, getting experience from beating staryu until Bel/oddish finally was able to beat her. This way you easily add a new member on your team (since Oddish/bel will be the same level/higher by the time it manages to beat Misty). __________________ "Hmmm... a name for this plan..."* Last edited by Chou Toshio; Dec 5th, 2007 at 6:09:04 PM.