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Originally Posted by Fat Deck Knight
The reason we care about defenses is that Hyra's spread is so poor defensively that every popular Steel wall can OHKO it without residual damage.
Meaning that if this gets a perfect, damage free switchin and doesn't get poisoned/paralyzed/burned, it has a 0% chance of winning any encounter with any steel wall.
*Insert long post here*
The moral of the story kiddies is that Steelix is a fat POS.
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What I gather from your calcs is that with some defense EVs, MWL's set can survive a BB from Skarm. That's one attack on one wall that you should be KO'ing before it hurts you regardless. Just predict the switchin. Now, MWL's can come in on Spikes/Roost, and 2HKO while it tries to BB you. You survive and KO it, but you're left with, what, 10% or so health. Hello Life Orb (which you shouldn't be using if you run the defense EVs, taking away from his offensive prowess.) And I'm sorry, but there is a pretty good chance that it's coming in to residual damage; If I were to use this Pokemon with MWL's spread, I wouldn't give it the EVs to survive BB considering that it takes away from his attacking potential and he probably won't survive it anyways due to residual damage.
I never said once in my post that you'd be OHKOing the Steel walls. That's not the point. You're supposed to predict the Steel wall switchin and 2HKO them. Both spreads can do this, but neither is likely to survive any attacks from them (EXCEPT BB on Skarm with MWL's spread and some Defense EVs, but survival isn't altogether guaranteed just because of the EVs).
Also, I find the format your calcs are in hard to read, but that's just me. From the damage calcs you ran on MWL's set attacking the steel walls, he isn't OHKOing any of them except for Skarmory a very small amount of the time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I find that format difficult to decipher o.O
Skarmory:
M-Horn. Blizz.
33-39 256-301
Min: 289
Max: 340
Steelix:
M-Horn. Blizz.
56-68 225-265
Mix: 281
Max: 333
Steelix Max HP:
354
So, would these mean that the max Blizzard can do against Skarmory is 340, while its max HP is 334? And that Blizzard will do a max of 333 on Steelix while his max HP is 354? That doesn't sound all that great, considering he's 2HKOing them just the same as Hyra's spread
almost all the time.
They're
both crippled by Status, you can't use that as an argument against just Hyra's (this also applies to Gothic Togekiss). On this note, Blissey can easily T-Wave either one if it comes in on a Special Attack as Megahorn fails to KO it, which sucks.
Now, go ahead and pick holes in my argument =] I'm not very good at this yet =P