AAMS's contribution to adding Pokemon to Shoddy Battle

Amazing Ampharos · Apr 21st, 2008, 12:03:08 AM

I have heard that Doug's tool is very difficult to use so I figure this patch to the source code might make things easier. PT8Sceptile created this for the purpose of AAMS's five new Pokemon which I can personally confirm are working very well, but you guys might find it useful as well. Retyping the whole thing would be silly so I'll just link:

http://z13.invisionfree.com/AA_Mod_S...showtopic=2499

The first post is instructions whereas the second two are those entire files in modified form so that anyone could use it even if they have no competence in programming. Indeed I hope anyone uses it; this doesn't have to just be for Doug which is why I posted it in public. Any one of you could run a server to test a custom Pokemon concept and could then post about the results here to further your efforts to design Pokemon that are just right. There are only two problems as of right now:

This method doesn't account for weight, but a server host can easily fix this. The server files contain a text file for masses for all Pokemon, and the host just needs to append the information for any new Pokemon to the end. Do note that the masses must be in kilograms, not pounds.

This method also doesn't include sprites, and I know the CAP project is famous for its well drawn sprites. Sadly the AAMS Pokemon don't have sprites (though as of yesterday, all Pokemon without sprites display the RSE Missingno. sprite, courtesy of Colin). We don't have a way to deal with this, but I'm sure Doug has some method he has been using and can post here so we'll have a complete guide on how anyone can make a server with custom Pokemon. Even if he decides not to share, the issue is 100% aesthetic and has no impact on real battles.

I hope the CAP project finds this helpful; having a free method to add Pokemon to a server should be a great boon to all Pokemon creation projects.

***DougJustDoug***** · Apr 21st, 2008, 1:29:58 AM

The tools I wrote for making pokemon are currently entwined with other crappy changes I made to the Shoddy source when I was learning about the code and attempting to use Eclipse instead of NetBeans. At this point, my remaining task is to start with a clean set of Shoddy sources, add in the "good" code, and leave all the "bad" code behind. When that is done, it will be easy to distribute the code as patches and/or jars.

I never "solved" the sprite problem. My server assumes the user has the custom sprites in their sprite directory on the client machine. Just like every other sprite. So just copy your custom sprites into the client sprite directory, and you will see them. There's no coding changes required. I have discussed a nicer solution with Colin, but I haven't coded it.

Numbuh 214 · Jun 6th, 2008, 5:14:34 PM

http://z15.invisionfree.com/Dusty_Hi...p?showtopic=65

I built off the previously mentioned methods so it's more efficient to add Pokemon, but I haven't been able to add sprites, either. I WILL find out how, nevertheless.

***DougJustDoug***** · Jun 6th, 2008, 5:28:17 PM

I uploaded all my tools and changes to the Shoddy repository a few weeks ago. If you look at the Patches section of the SourceForge project, you'll see my stuff. I tried to comment the tool, so anyone should be able to figure it out. With the changes by AA, 214 and me -- server admins shouldn't have too much trouble making a pokemon.

Now, if we can just get this sprite problem solved....

Numbuh 214 · Jun 8th, 2008, 1:59:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat DougJustDoug

Now, if we can just get this sprite problem solved....

I found where you need to place the sprites on a Vista.

Code:

c:\users\<yourname>\appdata\local\shoddybattle\1.0

"users" can probably be substituted for "documents and settings" for an XP.

You need four kinds of sprites; two for normal/shiny x two for front/back. Where you need to place them is self-explanatory when you navigate.

That being said... anyone want to help me look for the Unown and/or Arceus back sprites? Anyone who contributes will be rewarded justly.

eric the espeon · Jun 8th, 2008, 3:41:05 PM

Thats the best I could find... but its RSE...

tennisace · Jun 8th, 2008, 6:06:34 PM

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unown_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

down towards the bottom theres all 28.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Arceus

they're all over the place but they're there.

EDIT: wait back sprites? ill look, but that'll be tough

Numbuh 214 · Jun 8th, 2008, 6:35:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat tennisace0227

EDIT: wait back sprites? ill look, but that'll be tough

WHY DO YOU THINK I ASKED?!

tennisace · Jun 8th, 2008, 6:49:04 PM

i misread the question =P. for arceus if you can wait about a week i can recolor the normal back sprite into every separate color. unown i can't help much with.

Numbuh 214 · Jun 9th, 2008, 1:09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat tennisace0227

i misread the question =P. for arceus if you can wait about a week i can recolor the normal back sprite into every separate color. unown i can't help much with.

THANK YOU, tennisace. Look forward to your red name and two stars. I already resigned myself to temporarily using the RS Unown back Sprites. (The offer is still open for any wishing to redeem it, however.)

eric the espeon · Jun 9th, 2008, 4:30:22 AM

This has all front sprites for Arceus Including shiny ones.
Searching for the other things you need.

If you need D/P Unown sprites you can download them here.

timw06 · Jun 9th, 2008, 12:48:47 PM

The dp back sprites for all Arceus' forms and Unowns' in normal and shiny variations.

http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/14...tedsprites.zip

These things aren't too hard to find if you know where to look...

edit: Veekun is down atm but the first link should work

tennisace · Jun 9th, 2008, 5:28:01 PM

do you still need me to recolor arceus? @Timw06 that link didnt work for me =/

Apr 21st, 2008, 12:03:08 AM	#1
Amazing Ampharos Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,559	AAMS's contribution to adding Pokemon to Shoddy Battle I have heard that Doug's tool is very difficult to use so I figure this patch to the source code might make things easier. PT8Sceptile created this for the purpose of AAMS's five new Pokemon which I can personally confirm are working very well, but you guys might find it useful as well. Retyping the whole thing would be silly so I'll just link: http://z13.invisionfree.com/AA_Mod_S...showtopic=2499 The first post is instructions whereas the second two are those entire files in modified form so that anyone could use it even if they have no competence in programming. Indeed I hope anyone uses it; this doesn't have to just be for Doug which is why I posted it in public. Any one of you could run a server to test a custom Pokemon concept and could then post about the results here to further your efforts to design Pokemon that are just right. There are only two problems as of right now: This method doesn't account for weight, but a server host can easily fix this. The server files contain a text file for masses for all Pokemon, and the host just needs to append the information for any new Pokemon to the end. Do note that the masses must be in kilograms, not pounds. This method also doesn't include sprites, and I know the CAP project is famous for its well drawn sprites. Sadly the AAMS Pokemon don't have sprites (though as of yesterday, all Pokemon without sprites display the RSE Missingno. sprite, courtesy of Colin). We don't have a way to deal with this, but I'm sure Doug has some method he has been using and can post here so we'll have a complete guide on how anyone can make a server with custom Pokemon. Even if he decides not to share, the issue is 100% aesthetic and has no impact on real battles. I hope the CAP project finds this helpful; having a free method to add Pokemon to a server should be a great boon to all Pokemon creation projects.

Apr 21st, 2008, 1:29:58 AM	#2
*DougJustDoug* Knows the great enthusiasms Administrator** Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,901 Houston, TX	The tools I wrote for making pokemon are currently entwined with other crappy changes I made to the Shoddy source when I was learning about the code and attempting to use Eclipse instead of NetBeans. At this point, my remaining task is to start with a clean set of Shoddy sources, add in the "good" code, and leave all the "bad" code behind. When that is done, it will be easy to distribute the code as patches and/or jars. I never "solved" the sprite problem. My server assumes the user has the custom sprites in their sprite directory on the client machine. Just like every other sprite. So just copy your custom sprites into the client sprite directory, and you will see them. There's no coding changes required. I have discussed a nicer solution with Colin, but I haven't coded it. __________________ My Art Thread: ArtJustArt - The Art of DougJustDoug

Jun 6th, 2008, 5:28:17 PM	#4
*DougJustDoug* Knows the great enthusiasms Administrator** Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,901 Houston, TX	I uploaded all my tools and changes to the Shoddy repository a few weeks ago. If you look at the Patches section of the SourceForge project, you'll see my stuff. I tried to comment the tool, so anyone should be able to figure it out. With the changes by AA, 214 and me -- server admins shouldn't have too much trouble making a pokemon. Now, if we can just get this sprite problem solved.... __________________ My Art Thread: ArtJustArt - The Art of DougJustDoug

Jun 8th, 2008, 3:41:05 PM	#6
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,695	Thats the best I could find... but its RSE... __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted.

Jun 8th, 2008, 6:06:34 PM	#7
tennisace RIDE OR DIE MOTHERFUCKERS ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,237	http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unown_(Pok%C3%A9mon) down towards the bottom theres all 28. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Arceus they're all over the place but they're there. EDIT: wait back sprites? ill look, but that'll be tough __________________ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Last edited by tennisace; Jun 8th, 2008 at 6:11:54 PM.

Jun 6th, 2008, 5:14:34 PM	#3
Numbuh 214 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 133	http://z15.invisionfree.com/Dusty_Hi...p?showtopic=65 I built off the previously mentioned methods so it's more efficient to add Pokemon, but I haven't been able to add sprites, either. I WILL find out how, nevertheless.

Jun 8th, 2008, 6:49:04 PM	#9
tennisace RIDE OR DIE MOTHERFUCKERS ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,237	i misread the question =P. for arceus if you can wait about a week i can recolor the normal back sprite into every separate color. unown i can't help much with. __________________ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ

Jun 9th, 2008, 4:30:22 AM	#11
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,695	This has all front sprites for Arceus Including shiny ones. Searching for the other things you need. If you need D/P Unown sprites you can download them here. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted. Last edited by eric the espeon; Jun 9th, 2008 at 4:44:12 AM.

Jun 9th, 2008, 12:48:47 PM	#12
timw06 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 543	The dp back sprites for all Arceus' forms and Unowns' in normal and shiny variations. http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/14...tedsprites.zip These things aren't too hard to find if you know where to look... edit: Veekun is down atm but the first link should work Last edited by timw06; Jun 10th, 2008 at 10:55:00 AM.

Jun 9th, 2008, 5:28:01 PM	#13
tennisace RIDE OR DIE MOTHERFUCKERS ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 5,237	do you still need me to recolor arceus? @Timw06 that link didnt work for me =/ __________________ ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ