Pokemon usages analysis: Which Pokemon were used by the top players in June? - Page 2

kamikaen · Jul 2nd, 2008, 10:29:27 PM

I'm confused about what these stats mean, and how they can be applied.

Let's say Colin took the usage information from only the top 50 Shoddy battlers (assume those are the "expert" players). That would differ from the "expert" usage list, correct? The way this list was calculated, it only shows what blank faction of players used where the other factions didn't. That would mean that while Celebi is on the top of your "expert" list, Garchomp could actually be the most commonly used Pokemon within the expert players.

darkie · Jul 2nd, 2008, 11:44:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat kamikaen

That would mean that while Celebi is on the top of your "expert" list, Garchomp could actually be the most commonly used Pokemon within the expert players.

It's not raw usage, but the average rating of whoever used it. This imo is better for seeing which Pokes are more useful/successful than weighted usage alone.

Little Green Yoda · Jul 2nd, 2008, 11:46:58 PM

Basically, it's a list of Pokemon that "expert" players tend to gravitate towards but newbies don't. Garchomp is used by experts and newbies alike so it's not as high up as normal usage rankings.

kamikaen · Jul 3rd, 2008, 4:40:22 AM

Yeah, so then I'd be correct. So I don't think this can be used as a usage list, it's just sort of a notice to new/average players, "use these Pokemon a bit more". Or something.

ExoM7 · Jul 3rd, 2008, 3:03:05 PM

Funny, half my old team was Celebi/Zapdos/Heatran.

Maybe I had a good idea.

Definitely wasn't expecting Mesprit. Maybe I should look into that. >_>

wDro · Jul 3rd, 2008, 8:03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat ODDish

Whilst Venomoth's begins ...

I'm deeply disturbed that five of my current laddering team are on the expert player list ... I'm becoming dull.

I only have 3 on the expert list and the other 3 are in the normal :D One of the 3 on the expert list is mamoswine, which used to be considered UU. :P

Cynthia · Jul 3rd, 2008, 10:17:50 PM

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Whilst Venomoth's begins ...

I'm deeply disturbed that five of my current laddering team are on the expert player list ... I'm becoming dull.

Your usage of them has probably propelled said pokemon to expert status. I'll assume personal responsibilty for the appearance of Gastrodon on this list :)

Aint No Sunshine · Jul 4th, 2008, 12:59:34 AM

I know of someone who uses Mesprit in almost all of her teams. I must say, that little pixie is quite a beast. It's interesting that it's finally catching on.

Even though I'd likely fit into the "normal" group, I used Moltres a bit. It's great as a Scarfed lead.

Fabbles · Jul 4th, 2008, 1:51:55 AM

I am loving the results from this, seems very useful in team building to say the least. Suicune has finally arrived in DP!

Would there be any chance this could be done for Ubers too? I assume it would only be for top 75-100, as after that there really aren't enough usages for it to mean much. I think some OU steel Pokemon would show up pretty high on the Uber list.

ParanoidDrone · Jul 4th, 2008, 12:57:22 PM

I think it's interesting that with the exception of the Regis, all of the legendaries fall under the "expert" list. It makes one wonder if some of the normal/novice players know that they're allowed in play. (As in, "Uber Clause" =/= "Legendary Clause.")

travisurfer · Jul 4th, 2008, 1:21:34 PM

I have noticed that many amateur players simply do not use legendaries for whatever reason. I guess they see them as being too good or thus must be uber. If you go on Serebi you'll see a lot of players using "Legendary Clause."

Tsukikage · Jul 4th, 2008, 1:50:54 PM

Surprised to see that on both of my frequently used teams, none were on the neb list. Nice to see Mesprit getting some love, as it is on one of these teams.

omgthatkid · Jul 4th, 2008, 4:20:36 PM

It is predictable that Electivire is a 'noob' OU Pokemon.
Some people still think they can use it successfully in conjunction with Gyarados for that Speed boost.

Bixby · Jul 4th, 2008, 4:39:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat omgthatkid95

It is predictable that Electivire is a 'noob' OU Pokemon.
Some people still think they can use it successfully in conjunction with Gyarados for that Speed boost.

Lately I have been running MixVire with Gyarados and it has been pretty successful lately. I just think most people that use it are noobs and they still try Gyara Vire with the physical Electivire.

Jul 2nd, 2008, 10:29:27 PM	#26
kamikaen Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,755 I'm unavailable.	I'm confused about what these stats mean, and how they can be applied. Let's say Colin took the usage information from only the top 50 Shoddy battlers (assume those are the "expert" players). That would differ from the "expert" usage list, correct? The way this list was calculated, it only shows what blank faction of players used where the other factions didn't. That would mean that while Celebi is on the top of your "expert" list, Garchomp could actually be the most commonly used Pokemon within the expert players. __________________ It's been fun!

Jul 2nd, 2008, 11:46:58 PM	#28
Little Green Yoda Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,436 Dagobah m i rite?	Basically, it's a list of Pokemon that "expert" players tend to gravitate towards but newbies don't. Garchomp is used by experts and newbies alike so it's not as high up as normal usage rankings. __________________ 4639 6767 1236 0217 3425 8379 1636 2204 6115

Jul 3rd, 2008, 4:40:22 AM	#29
kamikaen Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,755 I'm unavailable.	Yeah, so then I'd be correct. So I don't think this can be used as a usage list, it's just sort of a notice to new/average players, "use these Pokemon a bit more". Or something. __________________ It's been fun!

Jul 3rd, 2008, 3:03:05 PM	#30
ExoM7 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 53	Funny, half my old team was Celebi/Zapdos/Heatran. Maybe I had a good idea. Definitely wasn't expecting Mesprit. Maybe I should look into that. >_> Last edited by ExoM7; Jul 3rd, 2008 at 3:05:18 PM.

Jul 4th, 2008, 12:59:34 AM	#33
Aint No Sunshine Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 87	I know of someone who uses Mesprit in almost all of her teams. I must say, that little pixie is quite a beast. It's interesting that it's finally catching on. Even though I'd likely fit into the "normal" group, I used Moltres a bit. It's great as a Scarfed lead. __________________ There's nothing here.

Jul 4th, 2008, 1:51:55 AM	#34
Fabbles Reborn The Monster Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 953 Graveyard	I am loving the results from this, seems very useful in team building to say the least. Suicune has finally arrived in DP! Would there be any chance this could be done for Ubers too? I assume it would only be for top 75-100, as after that there really aren't enough usages for it to mean much. I think some OU steel Pokemon would show up pretty high on the Uber list.

Jul 4th, 2008, 1:21:34 PM	#36
travisurfer Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 850	I have noticed that many amateur players simply do not use legendaries for whatever reason. I guess they see them as being too good or thus must be uber. If you go on Serebi you'll see a lot of players using "Legendary Clause." __________________ travisurfer's Joint Trade Thread 1805 3821 5813

Jul 4th, 2008, 1:50:54 PM	#37
Tsukikage Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 299 The space that's inbetween insane and insecure	Surprised to see that on both of my frequently used teams, none were on the neb list. Nice to see Mesprit getting some love, as it is on one of these teams.

Jul 4th, 2008, 4:20:36 PM	#38
omgthatkid Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 350	It is predictable that Electivire is a 'noob' OU Pokemon. Some people still think they can use it successfully in conjunction with Gyarados for that Speed boost.