CAP 7 - Final Product

Magmortified · Mar 6th, 2009, 4:35:40 PM

CAP 7 is completed (mostly)!

Jan 31st, 2009, 11:34:07 AM: First Poll begins.
Mar 6th, 2009, 3:23:26 PM: Final Poll ends.

Total Time: Four weeks, six days. The fastest CAP yet (take that, darkie).

Name: Kitsunoh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Beej

Name: Ultimate Scout
Description: A Pokemon that is very capable of forcing the opponent to reveal vital information about their team members and their moves using various techniques.

Type: Steel / Ghost
Ability: Frisk / Limber
Stats: 80 HP / 103 Atk / 85 Def /55 SpA /80 SpD /110 Spe

Unique Move:

Quote:

Name: Shadow Strike
Type: Ghost
Physical
Power: 80
Accuracy: 95%
PP: 10
Special Effect: 50% chance of lowering defense 1 stage

Movepool:

Code:

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LEVEL UP MOVES
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Ice Fang (Heart)
Thunder Fang (Heart)
Scratch (-)
Tail Whip (-)
Lick (6)
Odor Sleuth (10)
Faint Attack (14)
Shadow Sneak (18)
Copycat (22)
Metal Claw (27)
Memento (31)
Fake Out (35)
Shadow Claw (40)
Revenge (44)
ShadowStrike (49)
Perish Song (55)

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TMs & HMs
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TM05 - Roar
TM06 - Toxic
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM11 - Sunny Day
TM12 - Taunt
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM20 - Safeguard
TM21 - Frustration
TM23 - Iron Tail
TM26 - Earthquake
TM27 - Return
TM28 - Dig
TM29 - Psychic
TM30 - Shadow Ball
TM31 - Brick Break
TM32 - Double Team
TM40 - Aerial Ace
TM41 - Torment
TM42 - Facade
TM43 - Secret Power
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM46 - Thief
TM49 - Snatch
TM53 - Energy Ball
TM54 - False Swipe
TM56 - Fling
TM61 - Will-o-Wisp
TM63 - Embargo
TM65 - Shadow Claw
TM66 - Payback
TM68 - Giga Impact
TM70 - Flash
TM74 - Gyro Ball
TM77 - Psych Up
TM78 - Captivate
TM79 - Dark Pulse
TM80 - Rock Slide
TM82 - Sleep Talk
TM83 - Natural Gift
TM85 - Dream Eater
TM87 - Swagger
TM89 - U-Turn
TM90 - Substitute
TM91 - Flash Cannon
TM92 - Trick Room
HM01 - Cut
HM03 - Surf
HM04 - Strength
HM06 - Rock Smash
HM07 - Rock Climb

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TUTOR MOVES
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Ice Punch
ThunderPunch
Knock Off
Ominous Wind
Trick
Iron Head
Snore
Spite
Superpower
Icy Wind

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EGG MOVES (Ground Group)
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Featherdance
Metal Sound
Curse
Flail
Psycho Shift
Mud Slap
Yawn
Meteor Mash

Height: 3'07"
Weight: 112 Pounds

The last things that need to be decided are: Height, Weight, if and how many pre-evos, and if Shadow Strike needs a different name.

Other than that, we're done!

Plus · Mar 6th, 2009, 4:37:27 PM

Good work guys, there were lots of ups and downs in this CaP but at least we got through!

For height and weight, nothing really matters, as this cap is immune to Low Kick and resistant to Grass Knot.

However, in proportion to something like Mightyena, I'd say something like 3'07" and 96 lbs would be somewhat reasonable.

As for Shadow Strike, I think the name is fine as is, but if need be, I don't care if you change it.

moi · Mar 6th, 2009, 4:39:13 PM

see you at play testing!

Infiltrator · Mar 6th, 2009, 4:39:45 PM

Height: 4'5"
Weight: 200 lbs

Good job to everyone who contributed to the creation of Kitsunoh!

Gothic Togekiss · Mar 6th, 2009, 4:42:55 PM

Height: around 3 feet at the shoulders
Weight: around 600 lbs
Length: 4.5 meters or 15 feet

These dimensions are based around tiger measurements. I imaged being about the size of a big cat.

IC3R. · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:02:02 PM

Height - 2'11" at shoulder
Weight - 104 lbs.
Length - 4'3" from facemask to tail

One pre-evo would be appropriate.

Shadow Strike has grown on me. I'll stick with that name.

Veedrock · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:12:15 PM

Height shouldn't be over 4 feet. Ingame player is 4'8", I can't see it matching height with them. Under 3 and a half would be fine.

As for weight, I really don't care (immune to Low Kick and grass knot won't touch this thing). It's a ghost and steel which does make it tricky, but I think it should sway towards the light side as the sprite/art appear to have more ghostlike qualities than steel.

This things movepool starts off really poor and get progressively better, eventually becoming really good (meteor mash, shadow strike). As such, I don't think it should have any pre-evolutions. The level up list has makings of a base pokemon with no evolutionary line.

Shadow Strike is fine for the name.

Infiltrator · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:13:42 PM

Hmm for a possible pre evo:
Kitsun

polelover44 · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:15:36 PM

height: 3'5"
weight: 100 lb. (60 Base Power for Grass Knot)

Coronis · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:23:23 PM

Shadow strike seems like a good name, the height should be no more than 4 feet an the weight no more than than 200 pounds. As for pre-evos I think that it should only have 1, and Kitsun sounds like a great name.

Gothic Togekiss · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:24:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Veedrock

Height shouldn't be over 4 feet. In-Game player is 4'8", I can't see it matching height with them. Under 3 and a half would be fine.

Even the largest big cat (Tiger) is around three feet at the shoulders so that shouldn't be a problem, if you're assuming it's a canine/feline of any kind. They're mythical canines that are said to be as tall as cows, but people seem to don't care about those.

What I don't understand is why making so damn small? I personally look at CAP7 and say "tiger or cougar sized" rather than house cat sized. It's immune to one move and 4x resisted to another, being 300+ pounds isn't going to be a bad things.

cyberzero · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:32:45 PM

Well Mag, it wasn't that fun being ATL without doing anything, but nice job getting this done so quickly. Just because you beat darkie in speed doesn't mean you beat him in being a quality TL. =P

Well, we've got ourselves a nice Pokemon this time around. Great job everyone!

Objection · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:34:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Gothic Togekiss

What I don't understand is why making so damn small? I personally look at CAP7 and say "tiger or cougar sized" rather than house cat sized.

So we should be looking at the weights of pokemon based on creatures of a similar size to tigers in order to determine a suitable weight for Kitsunoh. Examples of such pokemon are ...

***bojangles***** · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:41:22 PM

Under 3'5" is great. I'd just like to throw out the name Spectral Strike over Shadow Strike, because Kitsunoh's been advertised as a portal hopper in one of the supporting pieces.

Jimbo · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:42:28 PM

Shadow Strike sounds like it would be a move from Pokemon XD, other than that it's ok I guess.

Edit Bojangles' name is pretty cool too.

Gothic Togekiss · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:57:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Objection

So we should be looking at the weights of Pokemon based on creatures of a similar size to tigers in order to determine a suitable weight for Kitsunoh. Examples of such pokemon are ...

Okay let me rephrase myself, why are we making this damn creature so relatively small in size and weight? It's already immune to Low Kick and 4x resisted to Grass Knot so being 150+ pounds wouldn't kill this creature any more than before. It's not like they're a rule stating all Pokemon must be smaller than the in-game trainer.

Matthew · Mar 6th, 2009, 5:59:08 PM

I'm in love with the final product of this, you all did a really great job.

Goodbar · Mar 6th, 2009, 6:08:23 PM

3'07" and 96 lbs Plus's suggestion works for me
Spectral Strike iBojangles name too
and one pre-evo could be good

Well I have to say I like how this CAP turned out more than the last, and it was well moderated, good job Mag

Sc4rfCh0mp · Mar 6th, 2009, 6:15:10 PM

Well, my first CAP project here on Smogon. I have to say that it was a great time coming up with everything. As for height and weight, I'm guessing this thing is about the height of a panther/dog, so about 2'10" and 80 pounds works for me.

Spectral Strike does sound like a good name to me.

As for pre-evos, I feel that this guy only should have 1, since I can't see anything other than a baby kitten/puppy being a pre-evo.

darkie · Mar 6th, 2009, 6:17:19 PM

I can't wait to use FeatherDance!

Fuzznip · Mar 6th, 2009, 6:31:16 PM

I honestly don't think it needs a pre-evo. But if people want one, then it would have one pre-evo, like Mightyena.

As for the height and weight, I'm thinking about 3'75" because it reminds me of Raikou, which is quite large. 264 pounds would be quite reasonable.

If I were to change the name "Shadow Strike", I'd probably go with Spectral Strike, what iBojangles said.

**Deck Knight** · Mar 6th, 2009, 6:47:07 PM

Considering the only moves Weight effects are Low Kick and Grass Knot, one of which this is immune to and the other it resists, it's not a huge issue for me.

I picture this as somewhere around Absol sized, maybe a little larger.

Height: 4'1
Weight: 112 lbs.

Starkclamp · Mar 6th, 2009, 6:47:11 PM

There's a 12-character limit for move names, though, isn't there? So, there would definitely be reason to change the name of Shadow Strike, given that it's too long. Spectral Strike, unfortunately, is no better. Given it's pretty much a ghost-type Crush Claw, I would suggest something like Shadow Crush or Soul Crush or something like that.

Legacy Raider · Mar 6th, 2009, 6:49:46 PM

Congrats mag, really nice cap you ran. How about Shadow Fang for the name?

Captain Awesome · Mar 6th, 2009, 6:57:19 PM

I'm throwing Black Magic out there for discussion.

inb4loldatsdum

Mar 6th, 2009, 4:37:27 PM	#2
Plus EAT A DICK Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 956 New Jersey	Good work guys, there were lots of ups and downs in this CaP but at least we got through! For height and weight, nothing really matters, as this cap is immune to Low Kick and resistant to Grass Knot. However, in proportion to something like Mightyena, I'd say something like 3'07" and 96 lbs would be somewhat reasonable. As for Shadow Strike, I think the name is fine as is, but if need be, I don't care if you change it. __________________ Last edited by Plus; Mar 6th, 2009 at 4:39:54 PM.

Mar 6th, 2009, 4:39:45 PM	#4
Infiltrator Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,006 infiltrating smogon....	Height: 4'5" Weight: 200 lbs Good job to everyone who contributed to the creation of Kitsunoh! __________________ Previously know as The_Hybrid Server Shoddy username: Hybrid, Infiltrator.

Mar 6th, 2009, 4:42:55 PM	#5
Gothic Togekiss Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,484 PKMN Trainer Hijiri at your services	Height: around 3 feet at the shoulders Weight: around 600 lbs Length: 4.5 meters or 15 feet These dimensions are based around tiger measurements. I imaged being about the size of a big cat. __________________ Diamond: Rinneth (3222 2619 1334) Platinum: Remilia (5328 9611 0881) *White: Hijiri (3138 5947 0732) I can clone in B&W now. PM/VM if you need any. Everything I ever RNG'd is here What you buying stranger?* Last edited by Gothic Togekiss; Mar 7th, 2009 at 3:35:20 AM.

Mar 6th, 2009, 5:12:15 PM	#7
Veedrock Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,778 Location: Alaska, USA Occupation: Gamer Gamerscore: 84319	Height shouldn't be over 4 feet. Ingame player is 4'8", I can't see it matching height with them. Under 3 and a half would be fine. As for weight, I really don't care (immune to Low Kick and grass knot won't touch this thing). It's a ghost and steel which does make it tricky, but I think it should sway towards the light side as the sprite/art appear to have more ghostlike qualities than steel. This things movepool starts off really poor and get progressively better, eventually becoming really good (meteor mash, shadow strike). As such, I don't think it should have any pre-evolutions. The level up list has makings of a base pokemon with no evolutionary line. Shadow Strike is fine for the name. __________________ Now playing: Minecraft, Street Fighter x Tekken

Mar 6th, 2009, 5:13:42 PM	#8
Infiltrator Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,006 infiltrating smogon....	Hmm for a possible pre evo: Kitsun __________________ Previously know as The_Hybrid Server Shoddy username: Hybrid, Infiltrator.

Mar 6th, 2009, 5:02:02 PM	#6
IC3R. Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 41 Blargh...	Height - 2'11" at shoulder Weight - 104 lbs. Length - 4'3" from facemask to tail One pre-evo would be appropriate. Shadow Strike has grown on me. I'll stick with that name.

Mar 6th, 2009, 5:15:36 PM	#9
polelover44 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,394 Myyyyy Precciousssssss.....	height: 3'5" weight: 100 lb. (60 Base Power for Grass Knot) __________________ "I can't pretend to be much of a judge of poetry, I'm an English teacher, not a homosexual." - Stephen Fry in A Bit of Fry and Laurie An RU team.

Mar 6th, 2009, 5:23:23 PM	#10
Coronis Keeping the dream alive~ Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,360 The North Wind	Shadow strike seems like a good name, the height should be no more than 4 feet an the weight no more than than 200 pounds. As for pre-evos I think that it should only have 1, and Kitsun sounds like a great name.

Mar 6th, 2009, 5:41:22 PM	#14
*bojangles* IF YOU TRULY BELIEVE, Administrator** Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,886 Location: New York, NY Mentor	Under 3'5" is great. I'd just like to throw out the name Spectral Strike over Shadow Strike, because Kitsunoh's been advertised as a portal hopper in one of the supporting pieces. __________________ [12:47pm] TV-Rocka: I want to take a naked pic with just the tigres logo on my... [12:48pm] TV-Rocka: and well, no one of my friend want to take the photo

Mar 6th, 2009, 5:42:28 PM	#15
Jimbo it's a revolution, i suppose Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,572 New Jersey	Shadow Strike sounds like it would be a move from Pokemon XD, other than that it's ok I guess. Edit Bojangles' name is pretty cool too.

Mar 6th, 2009, 5:59:08 PM	#17
Matthew I love weather; Sun for days Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,574 Where the Sun finally sets	I'm in love with the final product of this, you all did a really great job. __________________ ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ What bitgamer tehconnection popcorn last.fm

Mar 6th, 2009, 6:08:23 PM	#18
Goodbar Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,591 ^ brought to you by Cartoons!	3'07" and 96 lbs Plus's suggestion works for me Spectral Strike iBojangles name too and one pre-evo could be good Well I have to say I like how this CAP turned out more than the last, and it was well moderated, good job Mag

Mar 6th, 2009, 6:15:10 PM	#19
Sc4rfCh0mp Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 182 Classified T_T	Well, my first CAP project here on Smogon. I have to say that it was a great time coming up with everything. As for height and weight, I'm guessing this thing is about the height of a panther/dog, so about 2'10" and 80 pounds works for me. Spectral Strike does sound like a good name to me. As for pre-evos, I feel that this guy only should have 1, since I can't see anything other than a baby kitten/puppy being a pre-evo. __________________ Has officially left the Community of Smogon due to the immense theorymon that just pissed me off. I'll be on Shoddy still.

Mar 6th, 2009, 6:17:19 PM	#20
darkie coolcoolcool Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,356 Plano, TX	I can't wait to use FeatherDance! __________________

Mar 6th, 2009, 6:31:16 PM	#21
Fuzznip Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,243 Calgary, Alberta	I honestly don't think it needs a pre-evo. But if people want one, then it would have one pre-evo, like Mightyena. As for the height and weight, I'm thinking about 3'75" because it reminds me of Raikou, which is quite large. 264 pounds would be quite reasonable. If I were to change the name "Shadow Strike", I'd probably go with Spectral Strike, what iBojangles said. Last edited by Fuzznip; Mar 6th, 2009 at 6:34:28 PM.

Mar 6th, 2009, 6:47:07 PM	#22
Deck Knight Jigen Makkoto Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,849 Massachusetts	Considering the only moves Weight effects are Low Kick and Grass Knot, one of which this is immune to and the other it resists, it's not a huge issue for me. I picture this as somewhere around Absol sized, maybe a little larger. Height: 4'1 Weight: 112 lbs. __________________ [17:53] <&Deck_Knight> If I Cite and Prune CiteandPrune's post, what does that make me? [17:54] <Birkal> a citeandprune cite and prunner [17:54] <%DHR> O_o lol [17:54] <+Mos_Quitoxe> Cite and Prune doesn't do enough of either [17:55] <+Mos_Quitoxe> can we make him change it or force him to pay damages [17:55] <&Deck_Knight> It would be a lot easier for him to Cite and Prune if we made him a mod. [17:56] <&Deck_Knight> I delegate this task to Birkal. [17:57] <Birkal> >:\|

Mar 6th, 2009, 6:47:11 PM	#23
Starkclamp Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 46	There's a 12-character limit for move names, though, isn't there? So, there would definitely be reason to change the name of Shadow Strike, given that it's too long. Spectral Strike, unfortunately, is no better. Given it's pretty much a ghost-type Crush Claw, I would suggest something like Shadow Crush or Soul Crush or something like that.

Mar 6th, 2009, 6:49:46 PM	#24
Legacy Raider Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,829 Scotland- GMT+0	Congrats mag, really nice cap you ran. How about Shadow Fang for the name? __________________ Warstories: UU Deathmatch (A) \| Raining on the Parade \| The Great War Breaching the Fortress (A) \| UU - Dodging Bullets (A) \| Mushroom Warfare (OU Warstory) (A) Last edited by Legacy Raider; Mar 6th, 2009 at 7:08:07 PM.

Mar 6th, 2009, 6:57:19 PM	#25
Captain Awesome Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 547 New York City	I'm throwing Black Magic out there for discussion. inb4loldatsdum __________________ HG Friend Code: 4727 0179 1321 Awesome Ribbiting Trade Thread