Issue #2 Released - Page 2

Eraddd · Jul 7th, 2009, 11:18:06 PM

Trolling article was excellent. Poison typing article was also very good.

9/10

Staraptor Call · Jul 8th, 2009, 2:45:26 PM

Good work, it was better than the first Smog. I'm happy to see that the article I suggested for the first issue was so popular. Why weren't Latios and Latias included in the list of Pokemon created to troll us? They're very hard to catch without a Master Ball in-game and even then have low IVs. Even though they are good in competitive battling they require the Eon Ticket event (which most people can't get) to obtain in a usable form. And in-game they always use Psychic to KO your Mean Look Crobat...

CaptKirby · Jul 8th, 2009, 3:14:23 PM

Because you have access to an R4 outside of Antarctica.

trippyfalls · Jul 8th, 2009, 5:18:37 PM

Not ass kissing but awesome job on the smog issues, I got a few of my friends that thought pokemon was just a kiddy game they went “wtf ?!” in aw at the amount of math and planning that goes into completive pokemon teams, it would be awesome if Nintendo picked it up as an actual magazine, though they would edit out the trolling page, Nintendo is like the government when it comes to hiding the truth +_+

mtr · Jul 8th, 2009, 10:26:29 PM

I thought it was great overall, and I loved the "Top 10 Trolls" section. But I was disappointed by the choice of featured pokemon, though the article itself was excellent. Perhaps next time a light could be shined on a bit of a dark horse, lesser-used OU pokemon, such as Forretress, Breloom, or Togekiss, which have gifts that often go overlooked. Or the article could explore the fall of dudes such as Dusknoir and Alakazam, with some comments on how they can still be potent forces.

The metagame analyses were well done. 9.5/10.0 IMO.

EDIT: What I said may have been ambiguous: I wasn't too fond of the decision to pick Salamence as the Featured Pokemon, though the article was well done anyways.

darkie · Jul 8th, 2009, 11:55:33 PM

Quote:

But I was disappointed by the choice of featured pokemon

It was decided by a vote, soo... it was all in your hands!

Chill · Jul 9th, 2009, 12:21:52 AM

The trolling article was actually my least favorite part of this issue. I guess I was just expecting something else when I read "Is Gamefreak trolling us" on the front page. Maybe a mention of how certain pokemon continue to get worse or get the shaft with each gen.

The 'top 10 trolls' list as it was just seemed silly. And while I don't mind silly, I prefer it if it's going to be funny. The article was fairly "meh" all around. I know I don't share the popular opinion in this instance. :C

Everything else I enjoyed. Kudos all around to those involved, even with the parts I didn't like.

mtr · Jul 9th, 2009, 12:26:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat darkie

It was decided by a vote, soo... it was all in your hands!

Well, sorry about that then. But how exactly does one get in on this vote? I searched the Smog subforum and found nothing...

Unless I'm making a retarded mistake, which has happened a number of times in the past.

Terminator · Jul 9th, 2009, 5:06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat umbr

Maybe I'm just being nitpicky, but there were a number of spelling/grammar errors/typos (most apparent in the Successes at VGC article) which, while they in no way detracted from the overall quality of the article, were occasionally distracting.

Loved the issue as a whole though, especially Rocket Grunt's amazing Cyclohm rendition.

Yeah I noticed the aforementioned errors quite a few times; and sometimes some sentences made no sense.

Though, the article itself was absolutely amazing, and I enjoyed the Jumpman interview quite a lot; while still taking pleasure in all the Pokémon articles.

Good job.

Lord Jesseus · Jul 9th, 2009, 5:20:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Xia

The troll section was hilarious. Kudos to Thunda and CaptKirby!

Hell yeah, it's all so true too...

Jimbo · Jul 9th, 2009, 6:22:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat mtr12

Well, sorry about that then. But how exactly does one get in on this vote? I searched the Smog subforum and found nothing...

Unless I'm making a retarded mistake, which has happened a number of times in the past.

Well there isn't a Featured Pokemon vote for this article, but last time if you read the Polls/Trivia page, it said you can send a PM to "The Smog" with your choice.

CaptKirby · Jul 9th, 2009, 9:57:30 AM

Jimbo and darkie I think he means featured pokemon in the troll section; you greatly overestimate his or her intelligence, as this person wanted us to muse about the nature of natural metagame shifts in an article about which pokemon were born trolls or not.

EDIT: Okay sorry for my meanness!

FalconPunch · Jul 9th, 2009, 11:09:38 AM

The Troll article was Win. Nuff said.

-Terywj- · Jul 9th, 2009, 11:45:42 AM

I liked it alot. :) Better than the first issue in my own opinion.

I especially liked how this time it covered certain types.

Keep up the great work.

-Terywj

mtr · Jul 9th, 2009, 2:30:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat CaptKirby

Jimbo and darkie I think he means featured pokemon in the troll section; you greatly overestimate his or her intelligence, as this person wanted us to muse about the nature of natural metagame shifts in an article about which pokemon were born trolls or not.

Perhaps I was unclear. I meant that I felt another pokemon should have been featured over Salamence IMO. Sorry for any confusion.

Xia · Jul 9th, 2009, 2:53:25 PM

The one thing that really got on my nerves (Jimbo already knows this) was the grammatical, structural, and punctuation errors of the "In Depth" section of the Ubers RMT. I can understand a few typos, but when every other "I" is written "i", I have a problem. Hell, nearly every instance where a proper noun should be used, it was ignored.

This, of course, is no slap at the article itself. It was well written (august's part, at least), but came off uncharacteristically unprofessional for Smogon.

Deaga · Jul 9th, 2009, 5:36:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Ubers are awesome

Um, I think the trivia is wrong...

"Which of these abilities prevents burn status?

Flash Fire
White Smoke
Blaze
Magma Armor
Oblivious"

None of them do. If you were trying to mean flash fire, it says here: http://www.serebii.net/abilitydex/flashfire.shtml that if the ability is traced, the pokemon can be burned by will-o-wisp. It can also be burned by tri-attack (ingame knowledge). White Smoke prevents stat's from being lowered, blaze powers up fire moves, magma armor prevents freeze, and oblivious prevents attraction.

Otherwise, great issue. Loved it. Hilarious. 5/5, etc.

That's only true for Advance, where Will-O-Wisp does not activate Flash Fire. In DP, WoW activates the ability, making Flash Fire Pokémon imune to burn.

Tyrael · Jul 10th, 2009, 2:59:31 AM

As a player just getting into real Pokemon, the metagame and RMT articles were extremely helpful in getting started. Maybe now I can get to work making a team with more thought than "Stealth Rocker, Sweeper A, Sweeper B, Wall A, Wall B, Rapid Spinner", which is what I have now. It seemed so overwhelming and I didn't really know where to start, but good ol' Smog #2 has shown me the way! Thanks a ton!

I didn't find the trolling article as hilarious as everyone else did, but it was good for a few laughs. Electrode was the best. I always wanted to hack a hand grenade painted like Voltorb/Electrode into the game and throw it at a wild one when it ambushed me. Let's see how YOU like it!!

PremiumVerumFatum · Jul 11th, 2009, 8:11:59 AM

About the VGC part: drug_duck placed second in Berlin and Honchkrow won Paris.

Caelum · Jul 11th, 2009, 11:26:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat PremiumVerumFatum

About the VGC part: drug_duck placed second in Berlin and Honchkrow won Paris.

I missed Honchkrow, it appears it was mentioned in three posts with a single line and amongst the hundreds of posts I missed it. It also wasn't mentioned on any of the main posts until after the article was completed, so I missed it.

drug_dark's was an oversight mistake on my part, sorry about that.

Anyway, fixed to reflect both of them.

Shuckle48 · Jul 20th, 2009, 11:23:03 PM

I think that they covered some great stuff with the Rotom Appliances. I like the idea of playing a mind game with your opponent with them.

Revolution.Z · Jul 22nd, 2009, 12:52:33 PM

Troll thread was awesome lol had a fun read there solid though 8/10

Fuzznip · Jul 23rd, 2009, 1:15:14 PM

Wow, I really enjoyed reading this issue then the last one. Many new articles and they were really well presented.

Nice job!

CarLOLs · Jul 24th, 2009, 10:54:50 AM

PUT YOUR MASKS ON FOR THE SMOG!

But seriously, this issue has lots of typos. And a few mistakes.
For instance:
"Which of these abilities prevents burn status?
Flash Fire
White Smoke
Blaze
Magma Armor
Oblivious"
None of them does. :| All of them can get burned by Tri Attack, according to Smogon's info.
Is it a trick question? Or did you get help from serebii for this article?

Toaster · Jul 30th, 2009, 9:58:54 AM

i really love most of the articials particularly the top 10 pokemon game freak used to troll us

great work!i hope you do more stunning smog issues in the future

Jul 8th, 2009, 2:45:26 PM	#27
Staraptor Call Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,422 Avatar by Lorak	Good work, it was better than the first Smog. I'm happy to see that the article I suggested for the first issue was so popular. Why weren't Latios and Latias included in the list of Pokemon created to troll us? They're very hard to catch without a Master Ball in-game and even then have low IVs. Even though they are good in competitive battling they require the Eon Ticket event (which most people can't get) to obtain in a usable form. And in-game they always use Psychic to KO your Mean Look Crobat... __________________ ∩_∩ ¼_¼ φ_φ

Jul 8th, 2009, 3:14:23 PM	#28
CaptKirby Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,637 on a branch, sleepin' till it's night	Because you have access to an R4 outside of Antarctica. __________________ Elsewhere, a somewhat startled Warren Worthington III finds that he has accidentally wandered into an electrified east-side world of post-twist teens and watsui-ing teeny-boppers...

Jul 8th, 2009, 5:18:37 PM	#29
trippyfalls Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 13	Not ass kissing but awesome job on the smog issues, I got a few of my friends that thought pokemon was just a kiddy game they went “wtf ?!” in aw at the amount of math and planning that goes into completive pokemon teams, it would be awesome if Nintendo picked it up as an actual magazine, though they would edit out the trolling page, Nintendo is like the government when it comes to hiding the truth +_+ __________________ --- "you cant see the forest for the trees"

Jul 8th, 2009, 10:26:29 PM	#30
mtr Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754	I thought it was great overall, and I loved the "Top 10 Trolls" section. But I was disappointed by the choice of featured pokemon, though the article itself was excellent. Perhaps next time a light could be shined on a bit of a dark horse, lesser-used OU pokemon, such as Forretress, Breloom, or Togekiss, which have gifts that often go overlooked. Or the article could explore the fall of dudes such as Dusknoir and Alakazam, with some comments on how they can still be potent forces. The metagame analyses were well done. 9.5/10.0 IMO. EDIT: What I said may have been ambiguous: I wasn't too fond of the decision to pick Salamence as the Featured Pokemon, though the article was well done anyways. __________________ Huehuehue Last edited by mtr; Jul 9th, 2009 at 2:31:43 PM.

Jul 9th, 2009, 9:57:30 AM	#37
CaptKirby Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,637 on a branch, sleepin' till it's night	Jimbo and darkie I think he means featured pokemon in the troll section; you greatly overestimate his or her intelligence, as this person wanted us to muse about the nature of natural metagame shifts in an article about which pokemon were born trolls or not. EDIT: Okay sorry for my meanness! __________________ Elsewhere, a somewhat startled Warren Worthington III finds that he has accidentally wandered into an electrified east-side world of post-twist teens and watsui-ing teeny-boppers... Last edited by CaptKirby; Jul 9th, 2009 at 9:39:03 PM.

Jul 7th, 2009, 11:18:06 PM	#26
Eraddd One Pixel Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,333	Trolling article was excellent. Poison typing article was also very good. 9/10

Jul 9th, 2009, 12:21:52 AM	#32
Chill Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,099 Falling, falling, into darkness	The trolling article was actually my least favorite part of this issue. I guess I was just expecting something else when I read "Is Gamefreak trolling us" on the front page. Maybe a mention of how certain pokemon continue to get worse or get the shaft with each gen. The 'top 10 trolls' list as it was just seemed silly. And while I don't mind silly, I prefer it if it's going to be funny. The article was fairly "meh" all around. I know I don't share the popular opinion in this instance. :C Everything else I enjoyed. Kudos all around to those involved, even with the parts I didn't like.

Jul 9th, 2009, 11:09:38 AM	#38
FalconPunch Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 57 A Place where darkie keeps on editing my post	The Troll article was Win. Nuff said. __________________ Pikachu used Falcon Punch But it Failed

Jul 9th, 2009, 11:45:42 AM	#39
-Terywj- Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 564 Hong Kong	I liked it alot. :) Better than the first issue in my own opinion. I especially liked how this time it covered certain types. Keep up the great work. -Terywj __________________ "Terywj's Youtube--Tetris, Team Fortress 2, and more!

Jul 9th, 2009, 2:53:25 PM	#41
Xia I am your big brother Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,464	The one thing that really got on my nerves (Jimbo already knows this) was the grammatical, structural, and punctuation errors of the "In Depth" section of the Ubers RMT. I can understand a few typos, but when every other "I" is written "i", I have a problem. Hell, nearly every instance where a proper noun should be used, it was ignored. This, of course, is no slap at the article itself. It was well written (august's part, at least), but came off uncharacteristically unprofessional for Smogon.

Jul 10th, 2009, 2:59:31 AM	#43
Tyrael Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3 Arizona	As a player just getting into real Pokemon, the metagame and RMT articles were extremely helpful in getting started. Maybe now I can get to work making a team with more thought than "Stealth Rocker, Sweeper A, Sweeper B, Wall A, Wall B, Rapid Spinner", which is what I have now. It seemed so overwhelming and I didn't really know where to start, but good ol' Smog #2 has shown me the way! Thanks a ton! I didn't find the trolling article as hilarious as everyone else did, but it was good for a few laughs. Electrode was the best. I always wanted to hack a hand grenade painted like Voltorb/Electrode into the game and throw it at a wild one when it ambushed me. Let's see how YOU like it!! __________________ My programs don't have bugs. They just develop random features.

Jul 11th, 2009, 8:11:59 AM	#44
PremiumVerumFatum Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 44 Germany	About the VGC part: drug_duck placed second in Berlin and Honchkrow won Paris. __________________ German VGC Champion 2009

Jul 20th, 2009, 11:23:03 PM	#46
Shuckle48 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6	I think that they covered some great stuff with the Rotom Appliances. I like the idea of playing a mind game with your opponent with them.

Jul 22nd, 2009, 12:52:33 PM	#47
Revolution.Z Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 262 In the Eye of The Tornado	Troll thread was awesome lol had a fun read there solid though 8/10 __________________ Took a hiatus haters now I'm back to cause trouble?

Jul 23rd, 2009, 1:15:14 PM	#48
Fuzznip Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,243 Calgary, Alberta	Wow, I really enjoyed reading this issue then the last one. Many new articles and they were really well presented. Nice job! __________________ DougJustDoug: Fuzznip -- you are more altruistic than I am. http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs41/f/20...urple_hill.png

Jul 24th, 2009, 10:54:50 AM	#49
CarLOLs Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 93	PUT YOUR MASKS ON FOR THE SMOG! But seriously, this issue has lots of typos. And a few mistakes. For instance: "Which of these abilities prevents burn status? Flash Fire White Smoke Blaze Magma Armor Oblivious" None of them does. :\| All of them can get burned by Tri Attack, according to Smogon's info. Is it a trick question? Or did you get help from serebii for this article?

Jul 30th, 2009, 9:58:54 AM	#50
Toaster Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 521 ...	i really love most of the articials particularly the top 10 pokemon game freak used to troll us great work!i hope you do more stunning smog issues in the future __________________ ... Last edited by Toaster; Jul 30th, 2009 at 9:59:20 AM. Reason: damn typos