IV training

CervixalCubby · Jul 8th, 2009, 5:27:29 PM

So I am new to IV training but I have a level 1 Snorlax and I used Metalkids calculator to judge its IVs and it said this.

Snorlax - #143 (Modest)
HP: 0 - 30
Att: 0 - 30
Def: 0, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30
SpA: 0 - 30
SpD: 0 - 30
Speed: 0 - 30

Outside of nature is this a good pokemon?

graves · Jul 8th, 2009, 5:31:34 PM

You can't tell at ALL.
You need to give it rare candy's and put in the stats it gets,
you have to get way more precise then this. Sorry.

CervixalCubby · Jul 8th, 2009, 5:33:58 PM

I only have one rare candy.
I will just EV train HP which is Bidoof over to 5.

Chinese Dood · Jul 8th, 2009, 5:38:36 PM

Yeah, Level 1 stats are basically useless. Also, since you are using MetalKid's Calculator, you should notice that the calculator will tell you what levels you will need for whichever stat to get a more precise IV for each of those stats.

Also, no such thing as IV training.You can't train for IVs. You can only breed for them. Seeing how you have a max of 30 IV only, its characteristic is probably Sturdy Body with possibly 30 in Defense. You should probably try to aim for 31 in a few stats. And, of course, nature is more important than IVs, but probably even if the snorlax you have is male and it turns out to have a few 30s in the right spots (which is not that likely), I wouldn't use it for rebreeding. You can probably do better than that.

urza220 · Jul 8th, 2009, 5:38:47 PM

Definitely a keeper; would make a good specslax.

CervixalCubby · Jul 8th, 2009, 5:43:06 PM

Do better IV pokemon breed better IV pokemon?
I always thought the numbers will be completely random.

I just got new numbers at level 3
Snorlax - #143 (Modest)
HP: 0 - 13
Att: 0 - 13
Def: 5, 10, 15
SpA: 0 - 3
SpD: 0 - 13
Speed: 0 - 6

those aren't good.

Should I keep the Snorlax to breed other Snorlax or will it just breed bad Snorlax each time?

Ashitaka · Jul 8th, 2009, 6:13:52 PM

Yes, the better IVs the parents have, the better IVs the egg will have. This is because the parents pass down IVs to the egg.

CervixalCubby · Jul 8th, 2009, 6:15:05 PM

Thanks.

R S E FR LG · Jul 8th, 2009, 6:16:24 PM

That is not the way at all to IV check a Pokemon. If you have Wi-Fi, you go into a Wi-Fi battle with a person who is willing to help you (not an actual battle, so you have to have told the person beforehand that you want to check your Pokemon's IVs). Go to the Wi-Fi Forum (link on the top of the Stark Mountain page) and go to Simple Requests (or something like that) on the top of the thread list (it's a sticky) and ask someone for a Level 100 Battle to check your IVs (don't worry, you don't care about winning this one, so enter that Level 1 you have). Then in the battle, select Pokemon instead of "Fight", and choose Summary for the Pokemon you want to IV check. Then put those stats in the calculator and you will get flawless results. Then you can close the battle or whatever.

Oh, and DO NOT battle ANYTHING beforehand with the Pokemon unless it doesn't give you experience. That will give you EVs that may affect you're results.

Also, what he was saying about Rare Candies, you do that to see the Lv.100 Pokemon, so save before feeding it Rare Candies and DO NOT SAVE after giving it the Rare Candies, that way you won't actually raise it to Lv.100, you will just see what it's stats will be. But IMO the Wi-Fi method works better.

Am I confusing?

CervixalCubby · Jul 8th, 2009, 6:24:51 PM

Ok after I write down the stats of the pokemon in the battle where would I go to check what the IVs are?
Also
What is a soft reset?
I am reading the breeding guide right now.
Also does the dittos IVs take into account?
Also I was thinking about getting into UU tournaments after I get six pokemon of my liking.

VashTheStampede · Jul 8th, 2009, 6:28:23 PM

Forget Rare Candies, and forget fighting. You can do one of 2 things: EXP. Share, or put it in the Daycare and get it to lvl 10 or 15.

THEN you check an IV Calc. You could also request an IV battle if you have WiFi for 100% accurate results.

CervixalCubby · Jul 8th, 2009, 6:35:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat R S E FR LG C XD D P P BR

That is not the way at all to IV check a Pokemon. If you have Wi-Fi, you go into a Wi-Fi battle with a person who is willing to help you (not an actual battle, so you have to have told the person beforehand that you want to check your Pokemon's IVs). Go to the Wi-Fi Forum (link on the top of the Stark Mountain page) and go to Simple Requests (or something like that) on the top of the thread list (it's a sticky) and ask someone for a Level 100 Battle to check your IVs (don't worry, you don't care about winning this one, so enter that Level 1 you have). Then in the battle, select Pokemon instead of "Fight", and choose Summary for the Pokemon you want to IV check. Then put those stats in the calculator and you will get flawless results. Then you can close the battle or whatever.

Oh, and DO NOT battle ANYTHING beforehand with the Pokemon unless it doesn't give you experience. That will give you EVs that may affect you're results.

Also, what he was saying about Rare Candies, you do that to see the Lv.100 Pokemon, so save before feeding it Rare Candies and DO NOT SAVE after giving it the Rare Candies, that way you won't actually raise it to Lv.100, you will just see what it's stats will be. But IMO the Wi-Fi method works better.

Am I confusing?

I understand the fighting thing but I don't think fighting is the most fastest way to check.

~~Aiklap~~ · Jul 8th, 2009, 6:43:08 PM

IV battles are the most common and most pratical ways of checking by far, unless you somehow have 99 rare candies, but even then it takes ages to use them all. IV battles are the quickest way to get fast and reliable results.
If you don't have wi-fi, i surgest leaving it at the day care.

CervixalCubby · Jul 8th, 2009, 6:47:24 PM

Once I get the level one hundred stats, will metal kids calculator tell me the exact IVs?

~~Aiklap~~ · Jul 8th, 2009, 6:50:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat CervixalCubby

Once I get the level one hundred stats, will metal kids calculator tell me the exact IVs?

Yes. All decent IV calculators will.

R S E FR LG · Jul 8th, 2009, 7:04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat VashTheStampede

Forget Rare Candies, and forget fighting. You can do one of 2 things: EXP. Share, or put it in the Daycare and get it to lvl 10 or 15.

THEN you check an IV Calc. You could also request an IV battle if you have WiFi for 100% accurate results.

EXP. Share will still give EVs, so that doesn't work as well, as you need to record all the EVs it gets.

Kevin Garrett · Jul 8th, 2009, 7:12:22 PM

I would listen to R S E FR LG C XD D P P BR's advice. I get the impression that he has played a lot of the games.

X-Act · Jul 9th, 2009, 10:14:33 AM

The OP must surely be a troll.

**Expert Evan** · Jul 9th, 2009, 11:20:17 AM

Wow IV training? sounds like a new concept similar to those As-Seen-On-TV ads I see so frequently.

cim · Jul 9th, 2009, 9:40:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Kevin Garrett

I would listen to R S E FR LG C XD D P P BR's advice. I get the impression that he has played a lot of the games.

I actually lol'd

Jul 8th, 2009, 5:31:34 PM	#2
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Jul 8th, 2009, 5:43:06 PM	#6
CervixalCubby Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 21	Do better IV pokemon breed better IV pokemon? I always thought the numbers will be completely random. I just got new numbers at level 3 Snorlax - #143 (Modest) HP: 0 - 13 Att: 0 - 13 Def: 5, 10, 15 SpA: 0 - 3 SpD: 0 - 13 Speed: 0 - 6 those aren't good. Should I keep the Snorlax to breed other Snorlax or will it just breed bad Snorlax each time? Last edited by CervixalCubby; Jul 8th, 2009 at 6:03:05 PM.

Jul 8th, 2009, 6:24:51 PM	#10
CervixalCubby Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 21	Ok after I write down the stats of the pokemon in the battle where would I go to check what the IVs are? Also What is a soft reset? I am reading the breeding guide right now. Also does the dittos IVs take into account? Also I was thinking about getting into UU tournaments after I get six pokemon of my liking. Last edited by CervixalCubby; Jul 8th, 2009 at 6:32:22 PM.

Jul 8th, 2009, 6:28:23 PM	#11
VashTheStampede Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,489 New Jersey - Back home, chillin.	Forget Rare Candies, and forget fighting. You can do one of 2 things: EXP. Share, or put it in the Daycare and get it to lvl 10 or 15. THEN you check an IV Calc. You could also request an IV battle if you have WiFi for 100% accurate results. __________________ Sign the VGC Petition for a better future for us as players! Lizard, Da Letter El, and Vash's Thread Check out my Newbie Friendly Giveaway! Trading/Services: 2621 9925 0438 \|\| VGC Battles: 4941 2810 5782 † I don't give a fuck what religion you are. Copy and paste this if you don't either. †

Jul 8th, 2009, 7:12:22 PM	#17
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Jul 8th, 2009, 5:27:29 PM	#1
CervixalCubby Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 21	IV training So I am new to IV training but I have a level 1 Snorlax and I used Metalkids calculator to judge its IVs and it said this. Snorlax - #143 (Modest) HP: 0 - 30 Att: 0 - 30 Def: 0, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 SpA: 0 - 30 SpD: 0 - 30 Speed: 0 - 30 Outside of nature is this a good pokemon?

Jul 8th, 2009, 5:33:58 PM	#3
CervixalCubby Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 21	I only have one rare candy. I will just EV train HP which is Bidoof over to 5.

Jul 8th, 2009, 5:38:36 PM	#4
Chinese Dood Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,053	Yeah, Level 1 stats are basically useless. Also, since you are using MetalKid's Calculator, you should notice that the calculator will tell you what levels you will need for whichever stat to get a more precise IV for each of those stats. Also, no such thing as IV training.You can't train for IVs. You can only breed for them. Seeing how you have a max of 30 IV only, its characteristic is probably Sturdy Body with possibly 30 in Defense. You should probably try to aim for 31 in a few stats. And, of course, nature is more important than IVs, but probably even if the snorlax you have is male and it turns out to have a few 30s in the right spots (which is not that likely), I wouldn't use it for rebreeding. You can probably do better than that.

Jul 8th, 2009, 5:38:47 PM	#5
urza220 Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 32	Definitely a keeper; would make a good specslax.

Jul 8th, 2009, 6:13:52 PM	#7
Ashitaka Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 82	Yes, the better IVs the parents have, the better IVs the egg will have. This is because the parents pass down IVs to the egg.

Jul 8th, 2009, 6:15:05 PM	#8
CervixalCubby Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 21	Thanks.

Jul 8th, 2009, 6:16:24 PM	#9
R S E FR LG Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 307 Location:	That is not the way at all to IV check a Pokemon. If you have Wi-Fi, you go into a Wi-Fi battle with a person who is willing to help you (not an actual battle, so you have to have told the person beforehand that you want to check your Pokemon's IVs). Go to the Wi-Fi Forum (link on the top of the Stark Mountain page) and go to Simple Requests (or something like that) on the top of the thread list (it's a sticky) and ask someone for a Level 100 Battle to check your IVs (don't worry, you don't care about winning this one, so enter that Level 1 you have). Then in the battle, select Pokemon instead of "Fight", and choose Summary for the Pokemon you want to IV check. Then put those stats in the calculator and you will get flawless results. Then you can close the battle or whatever. Oh, and DO NOT battle ANYTHING beforehand with the Pokemon unless it doesn't give you experience. That will give you EVs that may affect you're results. Also, what he was saying about Rare Candies, you do that to see the Lv.100 Pokemon, so save before feeding it Rare Candies and DO NOT SAVE after giving it the Rare Candies, that way you won't actually raise it to Lv.100, you will just see what it's stats will be. But IMO the Wi-Fi method works better. Am I confusing?

Jul 8th, 2009, 6:43:08 PM	#13
~~Aiklap~~ Banned deucer. Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 198 Wales	IV battles are the most common and most pratical ways of checking by far, unless you somehow have 99 rare candies, but even then it takes ages to use them all. IV battles are the quickest way to get fast and reliable results. If you don't have wi-fi, i surgest leaving it at the day care.

Jul 8th, 2009, 6:47:24 PM	#14
CervixalCubby Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 21	Once I get the level one hundred stats, will metal kids calculator tell me the exact IVs?

Jul 9th, 2009, 10:14:33 AM	#18
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Jul 9th, 2009, 11:20:17 AM	#19
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