Updating past analysis?

Matthew · Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:10:19 PM

Yes, even though DPP is the current generation that doesn't mean that RBY, GSC, and ADV shouldn't get their analysis updated a bit. RBY ones especially, though I haven't done much reading on GSC. Would anyone be up for a C&C project to help update these?

Hipmonlee · Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:13:32 PM

I've been meaning to fix a lot of the rby analyses for ages, but I dont find the time to do it. If someone else takes control of the project, I'd like to be able to make a lot of suggestions for things that need to be changed.

Have a nice day.

***Great Sage***** · Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:22:22 PM

The main obstacle to this is that there is not a reliable, commonly used simulator for the older generations. However, if someone is willing to lead this, go ahead.

Fuzznip · Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:49:16 PM

I wouldn't mind updating these at all! We should try to have quality analyses for every generation anyway, so this is a good opportunity to start rewriting them.

I'd totally be up for this, and if you need help leading it Gen (I'm assuming you are going to lead it), I'd be glad to offer my assistance.

EDIT: I just looked at Aerodactyl's RBY analysis. This is going to be very interesting if you ask me.

Matthew · Oct 24th, 2009, 12:01:27 AM

I guess I could lead the project, but since it's a rather large one I would require some help keeping it updated, anyone want to help out?

Loki · Oct 24th, 2009, 1:07:03 AM

dont really have the time to write anything but i can consult for any gen

Aeolus · Oct 24th, 2009, 3:11:04 AM

While I think it is worthwhile to update past analyses... the related generations are all but extinct as far as Smogon is concerned. We do not support any simulator with RBY/GSC/ADV. As such, it is difficult to determine what the "current state" of the game might be for any of those games. There simply isn't an active medium and I think this project might be more effective if it is saved for such a time as RBY/GSC/ADV are regularly playable and an afficionado of the older gens is willing to step up to lead the project.

I'd be willing to direct the process if we supported the gens and someone would consult for GSC (which I dislike).

Hipmonlee · Oct 24th, 2009, 3:28:35 AM

Well we definitely have enough expertise among our members to make these things of a sufficient standard, the only question is if there is anyone with that expertise willing to put aside the time to write these things.

I could accept that while there are no simulators there is no urgency to repair these things, but I dont see an issue with writing about the metagame as it was when there was a simulator. If there is no simulator then the metagame cant have changed..

If there is someone (or multiple people) who wants to take on the project then I'd like to help. But not to the extent of actually rewriting the analyses myself..

Have a nice day.

***chaos***** · Oct 24th, 2009, 11:31:34 AM

I can consult as well. I don't think the generations have changed much since I last played them.

Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:10:19 PM	#1
Matthew I love weather; Sun for days Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,573 Where the Sun finally sets	Updating past analysis? Yes, even though DPP is the current generation that doesn't mean that RBY, GSC, and ADV shouldn't get their analysis updated a bit. RBY ones especially, though I haven't done much reading on GSC. Would anyone be up for a C&C project to help update these? __________________ ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ What bitgamer tehconnection popcorn last.fm

Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:49:16 PM	#4
Fuzznip Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,243 Calgary, Alberta	I wouldn't mind updating these at all! We should try to have quality analyses for every generation anyway, so this is a good opportunity to start rewriting them. I'd totally be up for this, and if you need help leading it Gen (I'm assuming you are going to lead it), I'd be glad to offer my assistance. EDIT: I just looked at Aerodactyl's RBY analysis. This is going to be very interesting if you ask me. __________________ DougJustDoug: Fuzznip -- you are more altruistic than I am. http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs41/f/20...urple_hill.png Last edited by Fuzznip; Oct 23rd, 2009 at 11:58:16 PM.

Oct 24th, 2009, 12:01:27 AM	#5
Matthew I love weather; Sun for days Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,573 Where the Sun finally sets	I guess I could lead the project, but since it's a rather large one I would require some help keeping it updated, anyone want to help out? __________________ ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ What bitgamer tehconnection popcorn last.fm

Oct 24th, 2009, 3:11:04 AM	#7
Aeolus Bag Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,636 St. Louis	While I think it is worthwhile to update past analyses... the related generations are all but extinct as far as Smogon is concerned. We do not support any simulator with RBY/GSC/ADV. As such, it is difficult to determine what the "current state" of the game might be for any of those games. There simply isn't an active medium and I think this project might be more effective if it is saved for such a time as RBY/GSC/ADV are regularly playable and an afficionado of the older gens is willing to step up to lead the project. I'd be willing to direct the process if we supported the gens and someone would consult for GSC (which I dislike). __________________

Oct 24th, 2009, 11:31:34 AM	#9
*chaos* chaos Administrator** Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,705	I can consult as well. I don't think the generations have changed much since I last played them. __________________ !gabite fierce: y'd u mute me?? !gabite fierce: eh bro?? !gabite fierce: u scared that i might bash u cuz u r not replying? ~chaos: you can't honestly think that is the reason lol !gabite fierce: tell me the reason oh is it cuz of bolding the writing? !gabite fierce: eh? !gabite fierce: u scared again?

Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:13:32 PM	#2
Hipmonlee Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,298	I've been meaning to fix a lot of the rby analyses for ages, but I dont find the time to do it. If someone else takes control of the project, I'd like to be able to make a lot of suggestions for things that need to be changed. Have a nice day.

Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:22:22 PM	#3
*Great Sage* Administrator** Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,872 Boston, MA Mentor	The main obstacle to this is that there is not a reliable, commonly used simulator for the older generations. However, if someone is willing to lead this, go ahead.

Oct 24th, 2009, 1:07:03 AM	#6
Loki like seashells Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,934 Meeeeeeechigan	dont really have the time to write anything but i can consult for any gen

Oct 24th, 2009, 3:28:35 AM	#8
Hipmonlee Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,298	Well we definitely have enough expertise among our members to make these things of a sufficient standard, the only question is if there is anyone with that expertise willing to put aside the time to write these things. I could accept that while there are no simulators there is no urgency to repair these things, but I dont see an issue with writing about the metagame as it was when there was a simulator. If there is no simulator then the metagame cant have changed.. If there is someone (or multiple people) who wants to take on the project then I'd like to help. But not to the extent of actually rewriting the analyses myself.. Have a nice day.