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Class · Nov 21st, 2009, 9:29:51 PM

You can use it, but I wouldn't considering it has a minus speed nature and 99% of Azelf tend to run plus speed.

mudkip72 · Nov 21st, 2009, 9:39:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat epicmusicfan

I have a dilema. I have two salamences that have two different evs. The first is 252 atk/ 4 Sp. atk/252 speed. The second is 232 atk/ 24 sp.atk/252 speed.

My question is: How much does a stat difference of 5 make? (First Salamence has 405 atk, 257 sp. atk; second one has 400 atk, 262 sp. atk) Which one should I use? I'm tempted to use the one with 405 atk.

Edit: I'm terrible at large math problems, so please just give me an example or something.

The 24 SpA is needed for a Life Orb Fire Blast to guarentee a OHKO on Skarmory

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Originally Posted by Fat sushi362

Hello everyone,

First time posting in this section. I have an azelf. Bad news: it is a quite nature. But can i still use it as a lead? it has 116 speed at 50.

Thanks.

That would depend who you are fighting. If its your friends, chances are it won't matter that much.

If you are battling competively with a DS Cartridge, then that Azelf is bad. Lead Azelf needs a +speed nature, and a -speed nature really kills it. I'm assuming it has 0 EVs, so it has a speed IV of 18 or 19, which isn't good enough by competitive standards either.

Competitively, Azelf would prefer a +speed with a full 31 IV to get the speed tie with other 115 speed pokes, although +speed with at least a 22 IV outspeeds the more common base 110s. If you have a nuetral speed nature, its recommended you must have a 31 IV to stay ahead of all base 100 speed pokes.

supermarth64 · Nov 21st, 2009, 9:45:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat epicmusicfan

I have a dilema. I have two salamences that have two different evs. The first is 252 atk/ 4 Sp. atk/252 speed. The second is 232 atk/ 24 sp.atk/252 speed.

My question is: How much does a stat difference of 5 make? (First Salamence has 405 atk, 257 sp. atk; second one has 400 atk, 262 sp. atk) Which one should I use? I'm tempted to use the one with 405 atk.

Edit: I'm terrible at large math problems, so please just give me an example or something.

Many people now use the first set as LO Fire Blast OHKOes with SR up, while the second set OHKOes 100% without SR up. Even with 4 EVs, it's like >90% chance of OHKOing even without SR up, so go ahead and use the first one.

As for nature, even though you didn't ask for it, go with Naive.

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