Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

[cantab]

Originally Posted by Fat locoghoul

After succesfully RNG abusing for 3 weeks now, it seems my seconds went from 14 to 15 but my delay is still the same (597). Is there a reason for this?

You're resetting too late. Possibly your external clock is a bit unreliable, or your mis-synchronising clocks.

[mtsilverchampion]

Originally Posted by Fat mattj

I apologize. I worded that strangely. What I meant is that if you save upstairs there will be NPCs that will throw you off. However, as long as you save downstairs you do not have to worry about any NPCs.

My final questions. I said before my delay was 490. But I was getting 606 in Platinum. I would reset 14 seconds before the minute, and I would get my delay. Say, if the HG/SS RNG runs at the same rate as the DPPt one, then could'nt I just try to use a date when that seed would appear on the 606 delay. That would make it a lot easier than using emloop.Especially since I will transfer my save to computer to use Kazo's software to find my frame. My final question, if I do it on a emulator, and then transfer my save back to my cartridge would it still be legitimate? I don't want to go to VGC 2010 just to be told I can't use my Pokemon.

[ΩDonut]

Originally Posted by Fat mtsilverchampion

My final questions. I said before my delay was 490. But I was getting 606 in Platinum. I would reset 14 seconds before the minute, and I would get my delay. Say, if the HG/SS RNG runs at the same rate as the DPPt one, then could'nt I just try to use a date when that seed would appear on the 606 delay.

It runs at the same rate, but the "Press Start" text appears earlier in HGSS. That's why the delays are a little shorter.

Especially since I will transfer my save to computer to use Kazo's software to find my frame. My final question, if I do it on a emulator, and then transfer my save back to my cartridge would it still be legitimate? I don't want to go to VGC 2010 just to be told I can't use my Pokemon.

Your Pokemon will still be legitimate, by VGC standards. However, if you're using an AR to transfer saves from an actual cartridge, I would be wary. If you're just using a flashcart and then trading the Pokemon over to a fresh cartridge, then it would be okay. (Clarification: Don't use the cartridge you used with the AR in the VGC.)

[Jubilee]

Above Route 206 is the Cycling Road, do the NPC's that move on it affect the frame? I know there not on the same route but there visable on the screen.....

[Wallydraigle]

******Edit: Never mind, see below.

I've done the shiny egg thing several times before, but this is the first time I tried to use the DPPt Shiny Egg tab in RNG Reporter. I SRed until I hit my seconds and delay, did the ten coin flips to verify my seed, then I did the additional coin flips and happiness taps that it said, but when I hatched the egg it wasn't what I was expecting. It was only two taps and two more flips, so I know I didn't miscount. What else could I have done wrong? I had six pokemon in my party when I was flipping and tapping. The other way you start with five and then catch one to check the seed, so that should be right, eh? What am I missing?

[Mercury]

Hiya!
I am planning on RNGing for a Shiny Ralts, male, but I am not sure how to tell what the gender will be. Like I know which nature I am getting, and which ability, but how do I tell the gender?

[Wallydraigle]

******Edit: Never mind, see below.

Originally Posted by Fat Wallydraigle

I've done the shiny egg thing several times before, but this is the first time I tried to use the DPPt Shiny Egg tab in RNG Reporter. I SRed until I hit my seconds and delay, did the ten coin flips to verify my seed, then I did the additional coin flips and happiness taps that it said, but when I hatched the egg it wasn't what I was expecting. It was only two taps and two more flips, so I know I didn't miscount. What else could I have done wrong? I had six pokemon in my party when I was flipping and tapping. The other way you start with five and then catch one to check the seed, so that should be right, eh? What am I missing?

Okay, I tried it again, and not only did I still not get what I was expecting, I didn't even get the same thing as last time, which I totally don't understand. I was 38 frames later than I should have been. The only thing I can think of is that I was doing my taps/flips inside the daycare. Should that matter? This is in Platinum, btw.

[Jubilee]

Originally Posted by Fat mingot

Straight from the guide that you should be using to do this:

Ability

Pokémon may have two possible abilities, one of which is often preferred. The "Ability" option is used to allow you to filter results based on the ability. As RNG Reporter does not know the Pokémon you are capturing, it simply requests the ability as "0", "1", or "Any". When the "Any" option is selected, all results will be returned, regardless of ability. When either "0" or "1" are selected only results with that particular ability will be returned. To convert these numbers to an actual ability, click the "Dex / IV Check" button in RNG Reporter and select the Pokémon you are capturing. Additionally, there is an online listing for Pokemon with multiple abilities in X-Act's article on PID Creation. Legendary Pokémon will only have one ability, so the default option or "Any" should be left selected.

Originally Posted by Fat Mercury

Hiya!
I am planning on RNGing for a Shiny Ralts, male, but I am not sure how to tell what the gender will be. Like I know which nature I am getting, and which ability, but how do I tell the gender?

The answer to the ability question is right above :)

And for gender's, Pokemon have different gender ratios so heres an example
Togekiss
And heres its Percentages
87.5 Male
12.5 F
Example Seed from RNG Reporter
50% 12.5% 25% 75%
F M F F
So the Togekiss would be male ok?
EDIT: To check Gender Ratios i would use Bulbapedia but im pretty sure theres a Thread on it here somewhere....

[ΩDonut]

Originally Posted by Fat Wallydraigle

Okay, I tried it again, and not only did I still not get what I was expecting, I didn't even get the same thing as last time, which I totally don't understand. I was 38 frames later than I should have been. The only thing I can think of is that I was doing my taps/flips inside the daycare. Should that matter? This is in Platinum, btw.

What seed is the egg on? What is the frame you are aiming for?

Also, what is the delay\date\time of that seed?

[Mercury]

Originally Posted by Fat Steveebomb7134

The answer to the ability question is right above :)

And for gender's pokemon have different gender ratios so heres an example
Togekiss
And heres its Percentages
87.5 Male
12.5 F
Example Seed from RNG Reporter
50% 12.5% 25% 75%
F M F F
So the Togekiss would be male ok?
EDIT: To check Gender Ratios i would use Bulbapedia but im pretty sure theres a Thread on it here....

Oh...I think I get it. But what if the Pokemon had 50% chance of both? How would you know the gender then?

[Jubilee]

Originally Posted by Fat Mercury

Oh...I think I get it. But what if the Pokemon had 50% chance of both? How would you know the gender then?

Well then if the RNG Reporter Said 50% M then it would be Male or vice versa for Female.... (Someone correct me if im wrong though XD)

[Mercury]

But what if it said 75% female? lol

Nvm...Lol. I get it.

[Wallydraigle]

Originally Posted by Fat OmegaDonut

What seed is the egg on? What is the frame you are aiming for?

Also, what is the delay\date\time of that seed?

******Edit: Never mind, see below.

The seed is D113025F. 19:51:14 12-12-2009 Delay is 598, frame is 49, and should yield a Jolly whatever. I didn't check which frame I hit the first time I messed up but it was Adamant. Second time I hit frame 87, Mild. Checked the PID, I'm sure that's the frame I hit.

Here's exactly what I did. I started out with six pokemon in my party, including the two parents. I saved with the Coin Flip app showing, inside the daycare. I reset and did my time and everything. When I got into the game I confirmed my seed with the ten coin flips. It checked out, so I did the two additional flips that the DPPt Shiny Egg tab said I needed, then flipped to the Happiness Checker app and did the two taps it said I needed there. Then I talked to the lady and deposited the parents, ran around until the guy had an egg, saved, accepted and hatched the egg.

I've done it before the other way where you catch a pokemon to check the seed, but this is new to me and I'm probably just messing up, but I have no idea where.

[Wallydraigle]

Never mind, I feel like such a douche. I was doing something else in another game file a couple days ago and still had my ID/SID from that game entered into RNG Reporter :lol: I knew I was just doing something stupid. Thanks anyway, if you hadn't asked for all that info I might not have caught it.

[Despotar]

Could I get some advise?
I have tried to get a non shiny, with a spread of 31/31/31/A/B/A,
16 seconds, 18 frame, and 604 delays.
I've been after it for days,
I have been consistently hitting everything,
but no! Even though I've been doing everything right, I cannot get the right delay.
And the really aggravating thing is this.
Twice I got 17 seconds (instead of 16) and I got the proper delay!
Is their something wrong with 16 seconds and 604 delay together?

[Metal Gods]

Do RNG abuse work the same way on HGSS?
I just imported them and have been playing a bit today.
I wanted to start breeding and getting my team together for VGC 10.

[Despotar]

Originally Posted by Fat Despotar

Could I get some advise?
I have tried to get a non shiny, with a spread of 31/31/31/A/B/A,
16 seconds, 18 frame, and 604 delays.
I've been after it for days,
I have been consistently hitting everything,
but no! Even though I've been doing everything right, I cannot get the right delay.
And the really aggravating thing is this.
Twice I got 17 seconds (instead of 16) and I got the proper delay!
Is their something wrong with 16 seconds and 604 delay together?

Whoever answers this (and when/if I get the prejeco)
gets a non-redis version of the breed! (31/31/31/31/31/31 adamant guts heracross)

[Nexus]

Originally Posted by Fat Despotar

Could I get some advise?
I have tried to get a non shiny, with a spread of 31/31/31/A/B/A,
16 seconds, 18 frame, and 604 delays.
I've been after it for days,
I have been consistently hitting everything,
but no! Even though I've been doing everything right, I cannot get the right delay.
And the really aggravating thing is this.
Twice I got 17 seconds (instead of 16) and I got the proper delay!
Is their something wrong with 16 seconds and 604 delay together?

there is real nothing you can do to change it for the delay you just have to keep trying until you hit it if it was higher i would recommend using emloop to hit it. As for the seconds start a second earlier to hit the sixteen if you keep getting seventeen. good luck

[Jubilee]

Originally Posted by Fat Steveebomb7134

Above Route 206 is the Cycling Road, do the NPC's that move on it affect the frame? I know there not on the same route but there visable on the screen.....

Can anyone answer this? :)
EDIT: Thanks Mingot!

[mtsilverchampion]

Hello

I, on an emulator was playing Pokemon HG. Now I started the game, and I chose my character, and then continued till I got a Pokemon. Now when Kotone, left, I decided to try out Kazo's frame finder program. I did everything just like in the post in the research thread, but the frame it said I was on was frame 1902049837. Why is this? PS I am not using a dump of my BIOS, to speaker in simpler terms I am not using an external BIOS/firmware, could that affect it? I do not know when exactly I started, should I use a dump of my own BIOS? I do not understand why, after walking just a short walk that it would display such a high frame.

BUT WHEN I SAVED AND RESET, THE FRAME WENT BACK DOWN TO SINGLE DIGITS. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

[mingot**]

Originally Posted by Fat Steveebomb7134

Can anyone answer this? :)

How to determine that is answered in the capture guide, very specifically. It's a relatively new update, though, so perhaps you have not seen it.

[mattj]

Originally Posted by Fat mtsilverchampion

Hello

I, on an emulator was playing Pokemon HG. Now I started the game, and I chose my character, and then continued till I got a Pokemon. Now when Kotone, left, I decided to try out Kazo's frame finder program. I did everything just like in the post in the research thread, but the frame it said I was on was frame 1902049837. Why is this? PS I am not using a dump of my BIOS, to speaker in simpler terms I am not using an external BIOS/firmware, could that affect it? I do not know when exactly I started, should I use a dump of my own BIOS? I do not understand why, after walking just a short walk that it would display such a high frame.

BUT WHEN I SAVED AND RESET, THE FRAME WENT BACK DOWN TO SINGLE DIGITS. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

Not familiar with Kazo's program. Does it handle Method K Frames? They are different than Method J Frames.

[Chev4]

trying to fish at the pokemon league and wondering the waterfall affect the frame and also i must minus 4 from my frame also.

frame 1204 slot 0

old rod land a poke

so minus 4 and flip 1200

and place my synchronizer in the beginning of my party am i right?

[Despotar]

Would changing the date from 2009 to 2015 mess anything up?

[Nexus]

Originally Posted by Fat Despotar

Would changing the date from 2009 to 2015 mess anything up?

it will change your delay by making it smaller