Little Cup Illegal Movesets - Page 2

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 11th, 2009, 1:56:07 AM

Code:

Swablu:
~Agility + Power Swap,
~Dragon Rush + FeatherDance,
~Dragon Rush + Power Swap,
~Dragon Rush + Pursuit,
~FeatherDance + Rage,
~Power Swap + Pursuit,
~Power Swap + Rage,
~Dragon Rush + Body Slam,
~Dragon Rush + Double-Edge,
~Dragon Rush + Mimic,
~Dragon Rush + Sky Attack,
~FeatherDance + Body Slam,
~FeatherDance + Double-Edge,
~FeatherDance + Mimic,
~FeatherDance + Sky Attack,
~Power Swap + Body Slam,
~Power Swap + Double-Edge,
~Power Swap + Mimic,
~Power Swap + Sky Attack,
~Agility + False Swipe,
~Dragon Rush + False Swipe,
~FeatherDance + False Swipe,
~Haze + False Swipe,
~Pursuit + False Swipe,
~Power Swap + False Swipe,
~Rage + False Swipe,
~Agility + FeatherDance + Haze,
~Agility + Dragon Rush + Rage,
~Dragon Rush + Haze + Rage;

Pomeg for False Swipe. No new level-up moves that can only be obtained via level-up, so no LC-specific combos now.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 11th, 2009, 2:01:36 AM

Code:

Corphish:
~Night Slash + Body Slam,
~Night Slash + Counter,
~Night Slash + Double-Edge,
~Night Slash + Mimic,
~Night Slash + Water Sport,
~Metal Claw + Double-Edge,
~Metal Claw + Counter,
~Metal Claw + Mimic,
~Dragon Dance + Double-Edge,
~Dragon Dance + Counter,
~Dragon Dance + Mimic,
~Mud Sport + Dragon Dance,
~Water Sport + Mud Sport,
~Water Sport + Metal Claw,
~Water Sport + Dragon Dance;

Pomeg for Water Sport. Night Slash (4th-gen level-up) and NOT Crunch (FRLG + 4th-gen level-up) are not Pomegable. L100 list from TotalPotato again.

No more event moves that care about Pomeg to my knowledge. Single-gender and genderless monsters are reserved for tomorrow.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 11th, 2009, 10:01:14 AM

Code:

Smoochum:
~Lucky Chant, 
~Copycat + Body Slam, 
~Copycat + Counter, 
~Copycat + Double-Edge, 
~Copycat + DynamicPunch, 
~Copycat + Mega Kick, 
~Copycat + Mega Punch, 
~Copycat + Metronome, 
~Copycat + Mimic, 
~Copycat + Seismic Toss, 
~Copycat + Fake Tears, 
~Copycat + Mean Look, 
~Copycat + Perish Song, 
~Copycat + Powder Snow, 
~Copycat + Sweet Kiss, 
~Copycat + Miracle Eye, 
~Fake Tears + Miracle Eye,
~Fake Tears + Nasty Plot, 
~Mean Look + Miracle Eye, 
~Perish Song + Miracle Eye, 
~Perish Song + Nasty Plot, 
~Powder Snow + Miracle Eye, 
~Powder Snow + Nasty Plot, 
~Sing + Miracle Eye, 
~Sing + Nasty Plot, 
~Sweet Kiss + Miracle Eye,
~Sweet Kiss + Nasty Plot, 
~Confusion + Fake Out + Wish, 
~Fake Tears + Fake Out + Wish, 
~Mean Look + Fake Out + Wish, 
~Perish Song + Fake Out + Wish, 
~Powder Snow + Fake Out + Wish, 
~Sing + Fake Out + Wish, 
~Sweet Kiss + Fake Out + Wish,
~Copycat + Meditate + Wish,
~Copycat + Nasty Plot + Wish,
~Confusion + Copycat + Wish,
~Confusion + Mean Look + Nasty Plot, 
~Copycat + Sing + Fake Out, 
~Copycat + Sing + Meditate, 
~Copycat + Sing + Wish, 
~Confusion + Copycat + Sing,
~Perish Song + [a]Forewarn,
~Powder Snow + [a]Forewarn,
~Fake Tears + Meditate + [a]Forewarn,
~Fake Tears + Wish + [a]Forewarn,
~Mean Look + Meditate + [a]Forewarn,
~Mean Look + Wish + [a]Forewarn,
~Sing + Fake Out + [a]Forewarn,
~Sing + Meditate + [a]Forewarn,
~Sing + Wish + [a]Forewarn,
~Sweet Kiss + Meditate + [a]Forewarn,
~Sweet Kiss + Wish + [a]Forewarn,
~Confusion + Fake Tears + [a]Forewarn,
~Confusion + Mean Look + [a]Forewarn,
~Confusion + Sing + [a]Forewarn,
~Confusion + Sweet Kiss + [a]Forewarn,
~Fake Tears + Mean Look + [a]Forewarn,
~Fake Tears + Sing + [a]Forewarn,
~Mean Look + Sing + [a]Forewarn,
~Mean Look + Sweet Kiss + [a]Forewarn,
~Sing + Sweet Kiss + [a]Forewarn,
~Miracle Eye + Mega Punch,
~Miracle Eye + Mega Kick,
~Miracle Eye + Body Slam,
~Miracle Eye + Double-edge,
~Miracle Eye + Counter,
~Miracle Eye + Seismic Toss,
~Miracle Eye + Mimic,
~Miracle Eye + Metronome,
~Miracle Eye + DynamicPunch,
~Miracle Eye + Nightmare,
~Nasty Plot + Mega Punch,
~Nasty Plot + Mega Kick,
~Nasty Plot + Body Slam,
~Nasty Plot + Double-edge,
~Nasty Plot + Counter,
~Nasty Plot + Seismic Toss,
~Nasty Plot + Mimic,
~Nasty Plot + Metronome,
~Nasty Plot + DynamicPunch,
~Nasty Plot + Nightmare,
~Meditate + Miracle Eye,
~Fake Out + Miracle Eye,
~Wish + Miracle Eye,
~Miracle Eye + Nasty Plot,
~Meditate + Fake Out + Wish,
~Fake Out + Wish + Nasty Plot,
~Fake Out + Wish + Mega Punch,
~Fake Out + Wish + Mega Kick,
~Fake Out + Wish + Body Slam,
~Fake Out + Wish + Double-edge,
~Fake Out + Wish + Counter,
~Fake Out + Wish + Seismic Toss,
~Fake Out + Wish + Mimic,
~Fake Out + Wish + Metronome,
~Fake Out + Wish + DynamicPunch,
~Fake Out + Wish + Nightmare,
~[a]Forewarn + Mega Punch,
~[a]Forewarn + Mega Kick,
~[a]Forewarn + Body Slam,
~[a]Forewarn + Double-edge,
~[a]Forewarn + Counter,
~[a]Forewarn + Seismic Toss,
~[a]Forewarn + Mimic,
~[a]Forewarn + Metronome,
~[a]Forewarn + DynamicPunch,
~[a]Forewarn + Nightmare;

Pomeg glitch legalizes many level-up combinations, but it can't help with Lucky Chant (which is completely illegal in LC), Copycat, Miracle Eye, or new HGSS egg move Nasty Plot. This actually doesn't thin the list any because anything Pomeged is illegal with Forewarn!

L100 list from TotalPotato.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 11th, 2009, 10:12:43 AM

Code:

Happiny:
~Aromatherapy + Refresh,
~Metronome + Refresh,
~Mud Bomb + Refresh,
~Mud Bomb + Sweet Kiss,
~Present + Refresh,
~Refresh + Sweet Kiss,
~Aromatherapy + Counter,
~Aromatherapy + Mud Bomb,
~Aromatherapy + Present,
~Counter + Mud Bomb,
~Metronome + Mud Bomb,
~Mud Bomb + Present;

No Pomeging allowed for the 4th-gen only Happiny. Heal Bell and Gravity tutors removed LC-specific items, and new HGSS egg move Mud Bomb added some.

Breloom is the only useful Refresh parent with Refresh + Counter (Marill is still useless), and Clefairy handles Aromatherapy/Counter/Metronome/Present + Sweet Kiss.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 11th, 2009, 5:14:39 PM

Code:

Baltoy:
~Heal Block,
~Power Trick,
~Refresh;

XD Baltoy is overleveled for Little Cup, so no Refresh, and the remaining two moves are 4th-gen only level-ups, which can't be Pomeged.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 11th, 2009, 5:18:30 PM

Code:

Bronzor:
~Confuse Ray,
~Extrasensory,
~Faint Attack,
~Future Sight,
~Heal Block,
~Hypnosis,
~Imprison,
~Iron Defense;

4th generation monsters can't take advantage of the Pomeg glitch, so all level-up moves beyond 5 are no good for this genderless Pokemon in Little Cup.

It seems the Bronzor line only gets Iron Defense via level-up, not by tutor.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 11th, 2009, 5:22:09 PM

Code:

Riolu:
~Aura Sphere;

All of Riolu's L100 illegal combinations involve Aura Sphere. Since the relevant event Riolu is over level 5, Riolu can't have Aura Sphere at all in Little Cup, drastically simplifying the list.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 13th, 2009, 11:33:36 PM

Code:

Bagon:
~Dragon Dance + Iron Defense,
~Dragon Dance + Wish,
~Dragon Rage + Iron Defense,
~Dragon Rage + Wish, 
~Hydro Pump + Dragon Rush,
~Hydro Pump + Iron Defense,
~Hydro Pump + Wish,
~Thrash + Iron Defense,
~Thrash + Wish,
~Dragon Rush + Body Slam,
~Dragon Rush + Mimic,
~Dragon Rush + Iron Defense,
~Dragon Rush + Wish,
~Fire Fang + Body Slam,
~Fire Fang + Mimic,
~Fire Fang + Iron Defense,
~Fire Fang + Wish,
~Iron Defense + Wish,
~Dragon Dance + Thrash + Dragon Rush;

One Pomeg glitch monster I forgot! Pomeg for Iron Defense or Wish. With the tutorable Zen Headbutt being the only 4th-gen only level-up move, everything else can be Pomeged, so there are no LC-specific illegal combinations.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 14th, 2009, 12:09:58 AM

Code:

Krabby:
~Metal Claw + Body Slam,
~Metal Claw + Double-Edge,
~Metal Claw + Mimic,
~Slam + Amnesia + Body Slam,
~Slam + Amnesia + Double-Edge,
~Slam + Amnesia + Mimic,
~Slam + Flail + Body Slam,
~Slam + Flail + Double-Edge,
~Slam + Flail + Mimic,
~Tickle + Body Slam,
~Tickle + Double-Edge,
~Tickle + Mimic,
~Agility + Body Slam,
~Agility + Double-Edge,
~Agility + Mimic,
~Haze + Amnesia,
~Haze + Agility,
~Amnesia + Agility,
~Tickle + Agility;

Moving on to Pokemon that have LC-specific combinations that arise from a 3rd-gen egg move becoming a 4th-gen level-up move. Taking Slam + Flail + Mimic as an example (with Slam AND Flail being the new egg moves in question), Slam + Flail was illegal in the 3rd generation. To get a Slam + Flail LC-eligible Krabby, you need to breed two Slam + Flail Krabby in the 4th generation (and you miss out on 3rd-gen-only tutors like Mimic). If you want the tutors, you have to breed in the 3rd generation, where you can only have one of the egg moves.

Credit to TotalPotato for the L100 list.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 14th, 2009, 12:13:08 AM

Code:

Scyther:
~Morning Sun,
~Night Slash + Double-Edge,
~Night Slash + Mimic,
~Double Hit + Double-Edge,
~Double Hit + Mimic,
~Air Slash + Double-Edge,
~Air Slash + Mimic,
~Feint + Double-Edge,
~Feint + Mimic,
~Razor Wind + Baton Pass + Double-Edge,
~Razor Wind + Baton Pass + Mimic,
~Razor Wind + Light Screen + Double-Edge,
~Razor Wind + Light Screen + Mimic,
~Razor Wind + Reversal + Double-Edge,
~Razor Wind + Reversal + Mimic,
~Razor Wind + Safeguard + Double-Edge,
~Razor Wind + Safeguard + Mimic,
~Baton Pass + Reversal,
~Light Screen + Reversal,
~Reversal + Safeguard,
~Bug Buzz + Double-Edge,
~Bug Buzz + Mimic,
~Bug Buzz + Counter + Reversal,
~Bug Buzz + Counter + Safeguard,
~Double-Edge + [a]Technician,
~Mimic + [a]Technician;

Razor Wind is the egg-move-turned-level-up-move in question. Also, Morning Sun XD Scyther is overleveled, so you will just have to put up with the superior Roost. No dual-recovery movesets for you. :-P

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 14th, 2009, 12:20:22 AM

Code:

Dratini:
~Dragon Rush + Body Slam,
~Dragon Rush + Double-Edge,
~Dragon Rush + Mimic,
~Dragon Dance + Haze + Body Slam,
~Dragon Dance + Haze + Double-Edge,
~Dragon Dance + Haze + Mimic,
~Dragon Dance + Light Screen + Body Slam,
~Dragon Dance + Light Screen + Double-Edge,
~Dragon Dance + Light Screen + Mimic,
~Dragon Dance + Supersonic + Body Slam,
~Dragon Dance + Supersonic + Double-Edge,
~Dragon Dance + Supersonic + Mimic;
~ExtremeSpeed + Light Screen,
~ExtremeSpeed + Mist,
~ExtremeSpeed + Haze,
~ExtremeSpeed + Supersonic,
~ExtremeSpeed + DragonBreath,
~ExtremeSpeed + Body Slam,
~ExtremeSpeed + Double-Edge,
~ExtremeSpeed + Mimic,
~Light Screen + Haze,
~Light Screen + Supersonic,
~Light Screen + DragonBreath,
~Supersonic + DragonBreath,
~Mist + Haze + Supersonic,
~Supersonic + DragonBreath + Body Slam,
~Supersonic + DragonBreath + Double-Edge,
~Supersonic + DragonBreath + Mimic;

Dragon Dance is the offending move here. TotalPotato's L100 list once again.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 14th, 2009, 12:24:42 AM

Code:

Totodile:
~Ice Fang + Mega Punch,
~Ice Fang + Mega Kick,
~Ice Fang + Body Slam,
~Ice Fang + Double-Edge,
~Ice Fang + Counter,
~Ice Fang + Seismic Toss,
~Ice Fang + Mimic,
~Ice Fang + DynamicPunch,
~Ice Fang + Hydro Cannon,
~Flail + Mega Punch,
~Flail + Mega Kick,
~Flail + Body Slam,
~Flail + Double-Edge,
~Flail + Counter,
~Flail + Seismic Toss,
~Flail + Mimic,
~Flail + DynamicPunch,
~Flail + Hydro Cannon,
~Superpower + Mega Punch,
~Superpower + Mega Kick,
~Superpower + Body Slam,
~Superpower + Double-Edge,
~Superpower + Counter,
~Superpower + Seismic Toss,
~Superpower + Mimic,
~Superpower + DynamicPunch,
~Superpower + Hydro Cannon,
~Hydro Cannon + Water Gun,
~Hydro Cannon + Rage,
~Hydro Cannon + Bite,
~Hydro Cannon + Scary Face,
~Hydro Cannon + Thrash,
~Hydro Cannon + Slash,
~Hydro Cannon + Screech,
~Hydro Cannon + Hydro Pump,
~Thrash + Mud Sport + Mega Punch,
~Thrash + Mud Sport + Mega Kick,
~Thrash + Mud Sport + Body Slam,
~Thrash + Mud Sport + Double-Edge,
~Thrash + Mud Sport + Counter,
~Thrash + Mud Sport + Seismic Toss,
~Thrash + Mud Sport + Mimic,
~Thrash + Mud Sport + DynamicPunch,
~Thrash + Water Sport + Mega Punch,
~Thrash + Water Sport + Mega Kick,
~Thrash + Water Sport + Body Slam,
~Thrash + Water Sport + Double-Edge,
~Thrash + Water Sport + Counter,
~Thrash + Water Sport + Seismic Toss,
~Thrash + Water Sport + Mimic,
~Thrash + Water Sport + DynamicPunch,
~Crunch + Mud Sport + Water Sport + Mega Punch,
~Crunch + Mud Sport + Water Sport + Mega Kick,
~Crunch + Mud Sport + Water Sport + Body Slam,
~Crunch + Mud Sport + Water Sport + Double-Edge,
~Crunch + Mud Sport + Water Sport + Counter,
~Crunch + Mud Sport + Water Sport + Seismic Toss,
~Crunch + Mud Sport + Water Sport + Mimic,
~Crunch + Mud Sport + Water Sport + DynamicPunch,
~Metal Claw + Mega Punch,
~Metal Claw + Mega Kick,
~Metal Claw + Body Slam,
~Metal Claw + Double-Edge,
~Metal Claw + Counter,
~Metal Claw + Seismic Toss,
~Metal Claw + Mimic,
~Metal Claw + DynamicPunch,
~Dragon Dance + Mega Punch,
~Dragon Dance + Mega Kick,
~Dragon Dance + Body Slam,
~Dragon Dance + Double-Edge,
~Dragon Dance + Counter,
~Dragon Dance + Seismic Toss,
~Dragon Dance + Mimic,
~Dragon Dance + DynamicPunch,
~Aqua Jet + Mega Punch,
~Aqua Jet + Mega Kick,
~Aqua Jet + Body Slam,
~Aqua Jet + Double-Edge,
~Aqua Jet + Counter,
~Aqua Jet + Seismic Toss,
~Aqua Jet + Mimic,
~Aqua Jet + DynamicPunch,
~Mud Sport + Dragon Dance,
~Water Sport + Dragon Dance,
~Dragon Dance + Aqua Jet,
~Hydro Cannon + Mud Sport,
~Hydro Cannon + Water Sport,
~Hydro Cannon + Dragon Claw,
~Hydro Cannon + Metal Claw,
~Hydro Cannon + Dragon Dance,
~Hydro Cannon + Aqua Jet;

Crunch and Thrash here. Pomeg won't work for Hydro Cannon because the XD Totodile is received outside of the egg. Another L100 list from TotalPotato.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 14th, 2009, 12:39:50 AM

Code:

Sunkern:
~Razor Leaf + Double-Edge,
~Razor Leaf + Mimic,
~Curse + GrassWhistle + Double-Edge,
~Curse + GrassWhistle + Mimic,
~Encore + GrassWhistle + Double-Edge,
~Encore + GrassWhistle + Mimic,
~GrassWhistle + Nature Power + Double-Edge,
~GrassWhistle + Nature Power + Mimic,
~Curse + Encore,
~Curse + Nature Power,
~Encore + Nature Power,
~Sweet Scent + Double-Edge,
~Sweet Scent + Mimic,
~Double-Edge + [a]Solar Power,
~Mimic + [a]Solar Power;

GrassWhistle is the problem move here. Sunkern also has Leech Seed as a 3rd-gen egg move and 4th-gen level-up move, but it's compatible with all the egg moves in the 3rd gen.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 14th, 2009, 12:42:50 AM

Code:

Murkrow:
~Assurance + Double-Edge,
~Assurance + Mimic,
~Assurance + Nightmare,
~Wing Attack + Drill Peck + Double-Edge,
~Wing Attack + Drill Peck + Mimic,
~Wing Attack + Drill Peck + Nightmare,
~Wing Attack + Perish Song + Double-Edge,
~Wing Attack + Perish Song + Mimic,
~Wing Attack + Perish Song + Nightmare,
~Wing Attack + Confuse Ray + FeatherDance + Double-Edge,
~Wing Attack + Confuse Ray + FeatherDance + Mimic,
~Wing Attack + Confuse Ray + FeatherDance + Nightmare,
~Brave Bird + Perish Song,
~Brave Bird + Psycho Shift,
~Confuse Ray + Mirror Move,
~Confuse Ray + Perish Song,
~Drill Peck + Perish Song,
~Drill Peck + Screech,
~FeatherDance + Screech,
~Mirror Move + Screech,
~Perish Song + Screech,
~Perish Song + Whirlwind,
~Brave Bird + Double-Edge,
~Brave Bird + Mimic,
~Brave Bird + Nightmare,
~Screech + Double-Edge,
~Screech + Mimic,
~Screech + Nightmare,
~Brave Bird + Confuse Ray + Drill Peck,
~Brave Bird + Confuse Ray + FeatherDance,
~Brave Bird + Drill Peck + FeatherDance,
~Brave Bird + Drill Peck + Whirlwind,
~Confuse Ray + Drill Peck + Whirlwind,
~Confuse Ray + FeatherDance + Whirlwind,
~Confuse Ray + Psycho Shift + Whirlwind,
~Drill Peck + Mirror Move + Psycho Shift,
~Drill Peck + Psycho Shift + Whirlwind,
~Drill Peck + FeatherDance + Double-Edge,
~Drill Peck + FeatherDance + Mimic,
~Drill Peck + FeatherDance + Nightmare,
~Drill Peck + Whirlwind + Double-Edge,
~Drill Peck + Whirlwind + Mimic,
~Drill Peck + Whirlwind + Nightmare,
~FeatherDance + Perish Song + Double-Edge,
~FeatherDance + Perish Song + Mimic,
~FeatherDance + Perish Song + Nightmare,
~[a]Super Luck + Double-Edge,
~[a]Super Luck + Mimic,
~[a]Super Luck + Nightmare;

Wing Attack is the egg-to-level story here. And that puts an end to the three-move and four-move LC-specific combos as far as I know.

EDIT: Fixed the L100 list.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 3:24:47 PM

Code:

Chikorita:
~Magical Leaf + Double-Edge,
~Magical Leaf + Mimic,
~Magical Leaf + Frenzy Plant,
~Sweet Scent + Double-Edge,
~Sweet Scent + Mimic,
~Sweet Scent + Frenzy Plant,
~Aromatherapy + Double-Edge,
~Aromatherapy + Mimic,
~Aromatherapy + Frenzy Plant,
~Frenzy Plant + Razor Leaf,
~Frenzy Plant + PoisonPowder,
~Flail + GrassWhistle,
~Flail + Leech Seed,
~GrassWhistle + Wring Out,
~Leaf Storm + Double-Edge,
~Leaf Storm + Mimic,
~Wring Out + Double-Edge,
~Wring Out + Mimic,
~Flail + Frenzy Plant,
~GrassWhistle + Frenzy Plant,
~Ingrain + Frenzy Plant,
~Leaf Storm + Frenzy Plant,
~Leech Seed + Frenzy Plant,
~Nature Power + Frenzy Plant,
~Vine Whip + Frenzy Plant,
~Wring Out + Frenzy Plant,
~Counter + Flail + Leaf Storm,
~Counter + Flail + Wring Out,
~Counter + GrassWhistle + Leaf Storm,
~Counter + GrassWhistle + Nature Power,
~Counter + Ingrain + Leaf Storm,
~Counter + Ingrain + Wring Out,
~Counter + Leaf Storm + Nature Power,
~Counter + Leaf Storm + Vine Whip,
~Counter + Leaf Storm + Wring Out,
~Counter + Leech Seed + Wring Out,
~Counter + Nature Power + Wring Out,
~Counter + Vine Whip + Wring Out,
~Flail + Leaf Storm + Nature Power,
~GrassWhistle + Nature Power + Double-Edge,
~GrassWhistle + Nature Power + Mimic,
~Counter + GrassWhistle + Ingrain + Vine Whip,
~GrassWhistle + Ingrain + Vine Whip + Double-Edge,
~GrassWhistle + Ingrain + Vine Whip + Mimic;

I didn't forget about this project - I'm ready to get back to work!

The XD Chikorita that comes with Frenzy Plant does not come in an egg, so the Pomeg glitch can't be used to get level-up moves on it. Fortunately, most of the level-up moves are also TMs or move tutors.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 3:32:41 PM

Code:

Cyndaquil:
~Lava Plume + Body Slam,
~Lava Plume + Mimic,
~Lava Plume + Blast Burn,
~Eruption + Body Slam,
~Eruption + Mimic,
~Eruption + Blast Burn,
~Blast Burn + Ember,
~Blast Burn + Quick Attack,
~Blast Burn + Flame Wheel,
~Double Kick + Body Slam,
~Double Kick + Mimic,
~Flare Blitz + Body Slam,
~Flare Blitz + Mimic,
~Extrasensory + Body Slam,
~Extrasensory + Mimic,
~Blast Burn + Fury Swipes,
~Blast Burn + Thrash,
~Blast Burn + Foresight,
~Blast Burn + Covet,
~Blast Burn + Howl,
~Blast Burn + Crush Claw,
~Blast Burn + Double Kick,
~Blast Burn + Flare Blitz,
~Blast Burn + Extrasensory;

The last of the Johto starters. The L100 list came from TotalPotato, but Blast Burn + Reversal is legal because the XD Cyndaquil actually comes with Reversal!

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 4:24:27 PM

Code:

Charmander:
~Howl,
~Quick Attack,
~Fire Fang + Body Slam,
~Fire Fang + Defense Curl,
~Fire Fang + Double-Edge,
~Fire Fang + DynamicPunch,
~Fire Fang + Mega Kick,
~Fire Fang + Mega Punch,
~Fire Fang + Mimic,
~Fire Fang + Seismic Toss,
~AncientPower + Beat Up,
~AncientPower + Belly Drum,
~Beat Up + Belly Drum,
~Beat Up + Dragon Dance,
~Beat Up + Dragon Rush,
~Belly Drum + Bite,
~Belly Drum + Dragon Dance,
~Belly Drum + Dragon Rush,
~Crunch + Body Slam,
~Crunch + Defense Curl,
~Crunch + Double-Edge,
~Crunch + DynamicPunch,
~Crunch + Mega Kick,
~Crunch + Mega Punch,
~Crunch + Mimic,
~Crunch + Seismic Toss,
~Crunch + Rage,
~Dragon Rush + Body Slam,
~Dragon Rush + Defense Curl,
~Dragon Rush + Double-Edge,
~Dragon Rush + DynamicPunch,
~Dragon Rush + Mega Kick,
~Dragon Rush + Mega Punch,
~Dragon Rush + Mimic,
~Dragon Rush + Seismic Toss,
~Dragon Rush + Rage,
~Flare Blitz + Body Slam,
~Flare Blitz + Defense Curl,
~Flare Blitz + Double-Edge,
~Flare Blitz + DynamicPunch,
~Flare Blitz + Mega Kick,
~Flare Blitz + Mega Punch,
~Flare Blitz + Mimic,
~Flare Blitz + Seismic Toss,
~Flare Blitz + Rage,
~AncientPower + Bite + Dragon Rush,
~AncientPower + Dragon Dance + Dragon Rush,
~AncientPower + Dragon Rush + Metal Claw,
~Beat Up + Counter + Crunch,
~Beat Up + Crunch + Metal Claw,
~Belly Drum + Crunch + Metal Claw,
~Bite + Counter + Dragon Rush,
~Bite + Dragon Rush + Metal Claw,
~Counter + Crunch + Metal Claw,
~Counter + Dragon Dance + Dragon Rush,
~Counter + Dragon Rush + Metal Claw,
~Dragon Dance + Dragon Rush + Metal Claw,
~AncientPower + Dragon Dance + Body Slam,
~AncientPower + Dragon Dance + Defense Curl,
~AncientPower + Dragon Dance + Double-Edge,
~AncientPower + Dragon Dance + DynamicPunch,
~AncientPower + Dragon Dance + Mega Kick,
~AncientPower + Dragon Dance + Mega Punch,
~AncientPower + Dragon Dance + Mimic,
~AncientPower + Dragon Dance + Seismic Toss,
~AncientPower + Dragon Dance + Rage,
~AncientPower + Outrage + Body Slam,
~AncientPower + Outrage + Defense Curl,
~AncientPower + Outrage + Double-Edge,
~AncientPower + Outrage + DynamicPunch,
~AncientPower + Outrage + Mega Kick,
~AncientPower + Outrage + Mega Punch,
~AncientPower + Outrage + Mimic,
~AncientPower + Outrage + Seismic Toss,
~AncientPower + Outrage + Rage,
~Beat Up + Outrage + Body Slam,
~Beat Up + Outrage + Defense Curl,
~Beat Up + Outrage + Double-Edge,
~Beat Up + Outrage + DynamicPunch,
~Beat Up + Outrage + Mega Kick,
~Beat Up + Outrage + Mega Punch,
~Beat Up + Outrage + Mimic,
~Beat Up + Outrage + Seismic Toss,
~Beat Up + Outrage + Rage,
~Belly Drum + Outrage + Body Slam,
~Belly Drum + Outrage + Defense Curl,
~Belly Drum + Outrage + Double-Edge,
~Belly Drum + Outrage + DynamicPunch,
~Belly Drum + Outrage + Mega Kick,
~Belly Drum + Outrage + Mega Punch,
~Belly Drum + Outrage + Mimic,
~Belly Drum + Outrage + Seismic Toss,
~Belly Drum + Outrage + Rage,
~AncientPower + Counter + Dragon Dance + Metal Claw;

The Howl/Quick Attack Charmander is overleveled for Little Cup, so this list gets trimmed down.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 4:26:48 PM

Code:

Pidgey:
~Air Slash + Double-Edge,
~Air Slash + Mimic,
~Air Slash + Sky Attack,
~Foresight + Pursuit,
~Brave Bird + Double-Edge,
~Brave Bird + Mimic,
~Brave Bird + Sky Attack,
~Brave Bird + Faint Attack + Foresight,
~Double-Edge + [a]Tangled Feet,
~Mimic + [a]Tangled Feet,
~Sky Attack + [a]Tangled Feet;

Tailwind tutor removed the Tailwind + 3rd-gen-only tutor illegalities.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 4:30:38 PM

Code:

Rattata:
~Assurance + Body Slam,
~Assurance + Defense Curl,
~Assurance + Mimic,
~Crunch + Body Slam,
~Crunch + Defense Curl,
~Crunch + Mimic,
~Me First + Body Slam,
~Me First + Defense Curl,
~Me First + Mimic;

Nothing exciting here, which is the case for many (but not all) LC-specific combinations.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 4:32:20 PM

Code:

Spearow:
~Baton Pass,
~Assurance + Double-Edge,
~Assurance + Mimic,
~Astonish + Scary Face,
~Astonish + Tri Attack,
~Faint Attack + False Swipe,
~Faint Attack + Scary Face,
~False Swipe + Scary Face,
~False Swipe + Tri Attack,
~False Swipe + Whirlwind,
~FeatherDance + Scary Face,
~FeatherDance + Tri Attack,
~Quick Attack + Scary Face,
~Scary Face + Tri Attack,
~Scary Face + Uproar,
~Tri Attack + Whirlwind,
~FeatherDance + Double Edge,
~FeatherDance + Mimic,
~Uproar + Double Edge,
~Uproar + Mimic,
~Whirlwind + Double Edge,
~Whirlwind + Mimic,
~Astonish + False Swipe + FeatherDance,
~Astonish + False Swipe + Quick Attack,
~Astonish + Faint Attack + FeatherDance + Quick Attack,
~Astonish + FeatherDance + Quick Attack + Uproar;

XD Baton Pass Spearow is overleveled for Little Cup.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 4:34:02 PM

Code:

Ekans:
~Mud Bomb + Body Slam,
~Mud Bomb + Double-Edge,
~Mud Bomb + Mimic,
~Disable + Body Slam,
~Disable + Double-Edge,
~Disable + Mimic,
~Poison Tail + Body Slam,
~Poison Tail + Double-Edge,
~Poison Tail + Mimic,
~Scary Face + Body Slam,
~Scary Face + Double-Edge,
~Scary Face + Mimic,
~Switcheroo + Body Slam,
~Switcheroo + Double-Edge,
~Switcheroo + Mimic;

Mud Bomb is the only 4th-gen-only level-up that causes problems.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 4:38:34 PM

Code:

Nidoran (F):
~Poison Fang + Body Slam,
~Poison Fang + Defense Curl,
~Poison Fang + Double-Edge,
~Poison Fang + Mimic,
~Toxic Spikes + Body Slam,
~Toxic Spikes + Defense Curl,
~Toxic Spikes + Double-Edge,
~Toxic Spikes + Mimic,
~Pursuit + Body Slam,
~Pursuit + Defense Curl,
~Pursuit + Double-Edge,
~Pursuit + Mimic,
~Skull Bash + Body Slam,
~Skull Bash + Defense Curl,
~Skull Bash + Double-Edge,
~Skull Bash + Mimic,
~[a]Rivalry + Body Slam,
~[a]Rivalry + Defense Curl,
~[a]Rivalry + Double-Edge,
~[a]Rivalry + Mimic;

Nidoran (F) doesn't suffer from the same problems its male counterpart does (regarding the necessity of the Pomeg glitch in some cases) because Smeargle can supply any and all level-up moves for it.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 4:40:27 PM

Code:

Vulpix:
~Charm,
~Extrasensory + Body Slam,
~Extrasensory + Double-Edge,
~Extrasensory + Mimic,
~Energy Ball + Body Slam,
~Energy Ball + Double-Edge,
~Energy Ball + Mimic,
~Flare Blitz + Body Slam,
~Flare Blitz + Double-Edge,
~Flare Blitz + Mimic,
~Power Swap + Body Slam,
~Power Swap + Double-Edge,
~Power Swap + Mimic;

XD Charm Vulpix's level is too high for LC.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 4:41:49 PM

Code:

Zubat:
~Air Slash + Double-Edge,
~Air Slash + Mimic,
~Brave Bird + Curse,
~Brave Bird + Hypnosis,
~Curse + Faint Attack,
~Curse + Hypnosis,
~Curse + Nasty Plot,
~Curse + Pursuit,
~Curse + Whirlwind,
~Gust + Hypnosis,
~Gust + Nasty Plot,
~Hypnosis + Nasty Plot,
~Hypnosis + Pursuit,
~Hypnosis + Quick Attack,
~Nasty Plot + Quick Attack,
~Brave Bird + Double-Edge,
~Brave Bird + Mimic,
~Hypnosis + Double-Edge,
~Hypnosis + Mimic,
~Nasty Plot + Double-Edge,
~Nasty Plot + Mimic;

Another unremarkable list.

***Wild Eep**** · Dec 27th, 2009, 4:44:43 PM

Code:

Paras:
~Refresh,
~Agility + Flail,
~Flail + Metal Claw,
~Flail + Psybeam,
~Flail + Pursuit,
~Metal Claw + Psybeam,
~Metal Claw + Sweet Scent,
~Psybeam + Pursuit,
~Pursuit + Sweet Scent,
~Screech + Sweet Scent,
~Agility + Body Slam,
~Agility + Double-Edge,
~Agility + Mimic,
~Cross Poison + Body Slam,
~Cross Poison + Double-Edge,
~Cross Poison + Mimic,
~Metal Claw + Body Slam,
~Metal Claw + Double-Edge,
~Metal Claw + Mimic,
~Agility + Counter + Psybeam,
~Agility + Counter + Sweet Scent,
~Agility + Light Screen + Sweet Scent,
~Agility + Pursuit + Screech,
~Counter + Flail + Screech,
~Counter + Light Screen + Screech,
~Flail + Light Screen + Screech,
~Light Screen + Metal Claw + Screech,
~Light Screen + Psybeam + Screech,
~Light Screen + Pursuit + Screech,
~Metal Claw + Pursuit + Screech,
~Flail + Screech + Body Slam,
~Flail + Screech + Double-Edge,
~Flail + Screech + Mimic,
~Light Screen + Screech + Body Slam,
~Light Screen + Screech + Double-Edge,
~Light Screen + Screech + Mimic,
~[a]Dry Skin + Body Slam,
~[a]Dry Skin + Double-Edge,
~[a]Dry Skin + Mimic;

Paras is yet another Pokemon with Refresh via an overleveled XD critter.

Dec 11th, 2009, 2:01:36 AM	#27
*Wild Eep Iron Bahbs Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,602 Vine Trip Mentor	Corphish Code: Corphish: ~Night Slash + Body Slam, ~Night Slash + Counter, ~Night Slash + Double-Edge, ~Night Slash + Mimic, ~Night Slash + Water Sport, ~Metal Claw + Double-Edge, ~Metal Claw + Counter, ~Metal Claw + Mimic, ~Dragon Dance + Double-Edge, ~Dragon Dance + Counter, ~Dragon Dance + Mimic, ~Mud Sport + Dragon Dance, ~Water Sport + Mud Sport, ~Water Sport + Metal Claw, ~Water Sport + Dragon Dance; Pomeg for Water Sport. Night Slash (4th-gen level-up) and NOT Crunch (FRLG + 4th-gen level-up) are not Pomegable. L100 list from TotalPotato again. No more event moves that care about Pomeg to my knowledge. Single-gender and genderless monsters are reserved for tomorrow. __________________ Last edited by Wild Eep; Aug 11th, 2010 at 9:28:50 PM. Reason: Crunch IS Pomegable

Dec 11th, 2009, 10:12:43 AM	#29
*Wild Eep Iron Bahbs Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,602 Vine Trip Mentor	Happiny Code: Happiny: ~Aromatherapy + Refresh, ~Metronome + Refresh, ~Mud Bomb + Refresh, ~Mud Bomb + Sweet Kiss, ~Present + Refresh, ~Refresh + Sweet Kiss, ~Aromatherapy + Counter, ~Aromatherapy + Mud Bomb, ~Aromatherapy + Present, ~Counter + Mud Bomb, ~Metronome + Mud Bomb, ~Mud Bomb + Present; No Pomeging allowed for the 4th-gen only Happiny. Heal Bell and Gravity tutors removed LC-specific items, and new HGSS egg move Mud Bomb added some. Breloom is the only useful Refresh parent with Refresh + Counter (Marill is still useless), and Clefairy handles Aromatherapy/Counter/Metronome/Present + Sweet Kiss. __________________ Last edited by Wild Eep; Jan 5th, 2010 at 7:52:54 PM.

Dec 11th, 2009, 5:14:39 PM	#30
*Wild Eep Iron Bahbs Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,602 Vine Trip Mentor	Baltoy Code: Baltoy: ~Heal Block, ~Power Trick, ~Refresh; XD Baltoy is overleveled for Little Cup, so no Refresh, and the remaining two moves are 4th-gen only level-ups, which can't be Pomeged. __________________

Dec 11th, 2009, 5:18:30 PM	#31
*Wild Eep Iron Bahbs Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,602 Vine Trip Mentor	Bronzor Code: Bronzor: ~Confuse Ray, ~Extrasensory, ~Faint Attack, ~Future Sight, ~Heal Block, ~Hypnosis, ~Imprison, ~Iron Defense; 4th generation monsters can't take advantage of the Pomeg glitch, so all level-up moves beyond 5 are no good for this genderless Pokemon in Little Cup. It seems the Bronzor line only gets Iron Defense via level-up, not by tutor. __________________

Dec 11th, 2009, 5:22:09 PM	#32
*Wild Eep Iron Bahbs Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,602 Vine Trip Mentor	Riolu Code: Riolu: ~Aura Sphere; All of Riolu's L100 illegal combinations involve Aura Sphere. Since the relevant event Riolu is over level 5, Riolu can't have Aura Sphere at all in Little Cup, drastically simplifying the list. __________________

Dec 14th, 2009, 12:09:58 AM	#34
*Wild Eep Iron Bahbs Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,602 Vine Trip Mentor	Krabby Code: Krabby: ~Metal Claw + Body Slam, ~Metal Claw + Double-Edge, ~Metal Claw + Mimic, ~Slam + Amnesia + Body Slam, ~Slam + Amnesia + Double-Edge, ~Slam + Amnesia + Mimic, ~Slam + Flail + Body Slam, ~Slam + Flail + Double-Edge, ~Slam + Flail + Mimic, ~Tickle + Body Slam, ~Tickle + Double-Edge, ~Tickle + Mimic, ~Agility + Body Slam, ~Agility + Double-Edge, ~Agility + Mimic, ~Haze + Amnesia, ~Haze + Agility, ~Amnesia + Agility, ~Tickle + Agility; Moving on to Pokemon that have LC-specific combinations that arise from a 3rd-gen egg move becoming a 4th-gen level-up move. Taking Slam + Flail + Mimic as an example (with Slam AND Flail being the new egg moves in question), Slam + Flail was illegal in the 3rd generation. To get a Slam + Flail LC-eligible Krabby, you need to breed two Slam + Flail Krabby in the 4th generation (and you miss out on 3rd-gen-only tutors like Mimic). If you want the tutors, you have to breed in the 3rd generation, where you can only have one of the egg moves. Credit to TotalPotato for the L100 list. __________________

Dec 27th, 2009, 4:30:38 PM	#44
*Wild Eep Iron Bahbs Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,602 Vine Trip Mentor	Rattata Code: Rattata: ~Assurance + Body Slam, ~Assurance + Defense Curl, ~Assurance + Mimic, ~Crunch + Body Slam, ~Crunch + Defense Curl, ~Crunch + Mimic, ~Me First + Body Slam, ~Me First + Defense Curl, ~Me First + Mimic; Nothing exciting here, which is the case for many (but not all) LC-specific combinations. __________________