(4th Gen) Seek and Destroy - An OU Warstory by reyscarface and Syl - Page 2

**PK Gaming** · Jan 2nd, 2010, 3:53:36 PM

Oh man I can see why this topic is popular! I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. You guys are awesome battlers and that match was simply divine. Your use of your pokemon truly impressed me. Especially Gliscor and Magnezone, who imo were that star players.

10/10

***Iconic**** · Jan 2nd, 2010, 3:55:05 PM

Good warstory Rey, I enjoyed reading it!

Megan_Fox · Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:02:07 PM

I haven't been here for long, but this is the best war story ive read so far. It was a kool battle to. Gj both of you guys. 10/10

XxJohny2haixX · Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:10:09 PM

Very nice, its made better with Styl's imaginative sets. :)

Ivysaur · Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:13:37 PM

I think its nice to see a good warstory after all the usually sub-par ones posted lately.
Good job guys, very well written. :)

supermarth64 · Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:16:08 PM

Dammit rey stop writing good warstories =/.

Lee · Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:16:37 PM

Great warstory, thanks for this. My first thought was 'aaah, not another warstory' but I perked up a bit when I saw it was reyscarface. As soon as Starmie came in on Gyarados I had a feeling that Syl was gonna go for the DD just based on his unorthodox nature but when I thought about it it seemed very risky (and not just for the obvious reason) - Syl was obviously banking on you using Rapid Spin but if Starmie was indeed running the standard Rapid Spin EV spread he would have been able to survive +1 LO EQ or SE. I guess you were running a 4/252/252 spread? So Syls move was even more ballsy than it appeared at first glance (maybe even bordering on reckless!) but it paid off handsomely so it's cool!

Another thing that concerned me was rey's confidence that Weavile would be able to revenge Syl's +1 Adamant Gyarados because if Gyara were to run 252 Spe, he'd have 391 speed compared to Weavile's 383. Of course there's no guarantee he'd go 252 as I know a lot of Gyara just use enough to outspeed Starmie after the boost but the analysis does reccomend 252 Spe and according to Dougs stats 48.2% of Gyara run max speed (and that stat deceives a little considering how popular Bulky Gyara/ResTalk Gyara is) so it's probably better to assume that Weavile cannot outrun +1 offensive Gyarados.

The fact I've dissected points like that should show just how much I enjoyed it, so once again - good job! 5 stars for sure.

cantab · Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:21:50 PM

Great warstory!
The gg trick was indeed sneaky...remember, it isn't over until it's over!

Berserker Lord · Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:34:03 PM

finally a good warstory to look at from all the other subpar ones

Jun. · Jan 2nd, 2010, 5:05:57 PM

Haha! Great warstory Rey and Syl! If I hadn't watch the battle live I would've been much more thrilled, but hell it was still a great battle/read the second time around. Keep up the good work guys :] I look forward to seeing more warstories from both of you.

Btw, the guy you named your alt after must be some amazing dude eh Rey? :x

TheFourthChaser · Jan 2nd, 2010, 5:07:58 PM

Good warstory here rey and syl, it gave me a good laugh because when I noticed rey was running Team WEAVILE and that syl had a Gyarados I kept thinking "Earthquake Gyarados sweep go". I really enjoyed the read because the prediction was good on both sides, the comments were good, and I was interested by Agility Gliscor whom I now want to try out. Good game guys, 10/10.

jc104 · Jan 2nd, 2010, 5:30:10 PM

Great Warstory!

Just one thing: Gyarados appeared to lose absolutely no health whatsoever to Starmie's Rapid Spin when you gave the percentages after each turn. Made no difference though of course, but a bit confusing.

Great psychological tricks from Rey - definitely part of the game. Not cheating.

HSA · Jan 2nd, 2010, 5:45:46 PM

Dude.This.Was.Awesome.

Especially with all these bad warstories popping up lately.

WECAMEASROMANS · Jan 2nd, 2010, 5:56:43 PM

Reyscarface, this battle was amazing, considering many other warstories sucked. This is why you should run your own sets, instead of just copying off Smogon all the time. It gets way too predictable, and Syl used his own unorthodox sets to gain a huge advantage. Oh, and btw, I absolutely hate players who bluff during a match, it requires way too much thinking. Plus, its a really dirty trick. But, good game to both of you.

Bilaterus · Jan 2nd, 2010, 5:58:50 PM

What a fantastic warstory. The excellent format and brilliant comments perfectly complemented the engaging and tense battle which included effective use of creative Pokemon and movesets.

Great job! This is definitely one of the best warstories around.

MrIndigo · Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:05:20 PM

I think Syl played better than ILJ as far as predictions went; while ILJ made a few cunning plays, like baiting Stone Edge with Mence to switch to Magnezone, he also made a few questionable sacrifices (letting Weavile fall with Gyarados and Gliscor both in the wings) and some fairly simple mistakes (not using Substitute against Azelf when Stealth Rock was the obvious play, given you'd just revealed Salamence in the wings).

However.

This was an entertaining battle and the description of thought processes was great. A nice change from the recent batch of mediocre warstories.

KnightoftheWind · Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:15:18 PM

An excellent change from all the bad warstories that have been popping up lately. It was an excellent battle and the comments were very well writen. Nice work reyscarface and Syl.

reyscarface · Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:17:00 PM

Thanks everyone for commenting in our warstory!

Answering some questions with this post.

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I think Syl played better than ILJ as far as predictions went; while ILJ made a few cunning plays, like baiting Stone Edge with Mence to switch to Magnezone, he also made a few questionable sacrifices (letting Weavile fall with Gyarados and Gliscor both in the wings)

Sorry, but I only had a Gliscor, he is the one who had Gyarados, believe me if I had Gyarados I wouldnt have sacrificed Weavile. Also, I didnt bring in Gliscor because I needed it to stop the Lucario and his possible last, and I thought it was a Mixape, not an SD Ape, so I was really afraid of HP Ice. I switched in Magnezone to take a HP Ice btw, I wasnt expecting Stone Edge.

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and some fairly simple mistakes (not using Substitute against Azelf when Stealth Rock was the obvious play, given you'd just revealed Salamence in the wings).

In my opinion, SR wasnt the "obvious play" considering it was end game, and id rather kill the Azelf than wasting a turn by subbing, since I really thought he had Fire Punch because he didnt Trick Aerodactyl Turn 1.

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Oh, and btw, I absolutely hate players who bluff during a match, it requires way too much thinking. Plus, its a really dirty trick. But, good game to both of you.

I didnt really mean to confuse Syl with that (well, you got me, I actually thought it could help lol), but I only said "gg", not "Damn gg I lost, I have no HP Ice on this". I think you guys cant say I "lied" =P

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Btw, the guy you named your alt after must be some amazing dude eh Rey? :x

Nah he sucks actually. (jk I love you cutie)

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Syl was obviously banking on you using Rapid Spin but if Starmie was indeed running the standard Rapid Spin EV spread he would have been able to survive +1 LO EQ or SE. I guess you were running a 4/252/252 spread?

Correct, sir. I am using 252/252 mainly because I enjoy very much 2HKOing Rotom. I could have LO here, but I like lefties since I dont have Leftovers or Wish Support in this team.
And yeah, I usually rely too much on Weavile to stop Adamant Gyarados, maybe I should stop assuming people use HP EVs to stop Scizor better x)

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Yes! A Weavile user ^_^.Nice Warstory. I also agree Weavile should get Crunch o.0.

Weavile is the best! Its sad to see how underrated it is though...

Again, thanks everyone for commenting on it, Syl and me appreciate it, and its good to see you enjoyed it!

Btw, I removed most of my cursing words, since some people disliked it, hopefully it is now a better read for everyone.

I also changed the percentages on Gyarados from the Rapid Spin hit, thanks for catching that out, jc104!

YTP · Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:47:35 PM

Great match and great commentary.

Chou Toshio · Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:50:42 PM

Really great battle guys!

What Weavile really needs is not Crunch, but Technician (Faint Attack, Ice Shard, etc.). . . :D

lati0s · Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:51:15 PM

very nice warstory, one of the best in a while.

Staraptor Call · Jan 2nd, 2010, 7:08:47 PM

I'm glad to see another great warstory coming from you, rey. The battle was full of prediction at almost every turn, and came down to a close finish. The way you did the comments was good as well, because it shows both players' predictions. This warstory should go in the Archive.

Amake · Jan 2nd, 2010, 7:45:40 PM

Nice battle / warstory!

MrIndigo · Jan 2nd, 2010, 7:59:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat reyscarface

Thanks everyone for commenting in our warstory!

Answering some questions with this post.

Sorry, but I only had a Gliscor, he is the one who had Gyarados, believe me if I had Gyarados I wouldnt have sacrificed Weavile. Also, I didnt bring in Gliscor because I needed it to stop the Lucario and his possible last, and I thought it was a Mixape, not an SD Ape, so I was really afraid of HP Ice. I switched in Magnezone to take a HP Ice btw, I wasnt expecting Stone Edge.

Oh, that's what I meant; sacrificing Weavile when you had Gyarados and Gliscor to deal with, for which the Revenge killer would have been valuable.

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In my opinion, SR wasnt the "obvious play" considering it was end game, and id rather kill the Azelf than wasting a turn by subbing, since I really thought he had Fire Punch because he didnt Trick Aerodactyl Turn 1.

He had nothing else really to deal with full-strength Mence, and allowing Mence to get in without SR is a crazy notion.

What was the final attacking move on Gyarados, BTW guys? Stone Edge, Waterfall, Ice Fang seems like dodgy coverage, I'd have taken EQ over Ice Fang/Stone Edge for sure.

SilentVerse · Jan 2nd, 2010, 10:27:40 PM

This was a great battle and warstory! It certainly was an engaging battle and I was constantly wondering what both of you would do next.

Jan 2nd, 2010, 3:53:36 PM	#26
PK Gaming Quiet Thunder God Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,527 Izanagi	Oh man I can see why this topic is popular! I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. You guys are awesome battlers and that match was simply divine. Your use of your pokemon truly impressed me. Especially Gliscor and Magnezone, who imo were that star players. 10/10 __________________

Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:02:07 PM	#28
Megan_Fox Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 926 CT	I haven't been here for long, but this is the best war story ive read so far. It was a kool battle to. Gj both of you guys. 10/10 __________________ "If you don't got haters you aren't doing something right" - Kevin Durant

Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:13:37 PM	#30
Ivysaur Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 329 ／人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕ 人＼	I think its nice to see a good warstory after all the usually sub-par ones posted lately. Good job guys, very well written. :) __________________ oh my god, please just never let me go yeah sometimes we're high, and sometimes we're low but put up with me and i'll make you see that things are better when you're with me

Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:16:37 PM	#32
Lee @ Thick Club Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 4,318 Lake District, UK	Great warstory, thanks for this. My first thought was 'aaah, not another warstory' but I perked up a bit when I saw it was reyscarface. As soon as Starmie came in on Gyarados I had a feeling that Syl was gonna go for the DD just based on his unorthodox nature but when I thought about it it seemed very risky (and not just for the obvious reason) - Syl was obviously banking on you using Rapid Spin but if Starmie was indeed running the standard Rapid Spin EV spread he would have been able to survive +1 LO EQ or SE. I guess you were running a 4/252/252 spread? So Syls move was even more ballsy than it appeared at first glance (maybe even bordering on reckless!) but it paid off handsomely so it's cool! Another thing that concerned me was rey's confidence that Weavile would be able to revenge Syl's +1 Adamant Gyarados because if Gyara were to run 252 Spe, he'd have 391 speed compared to Weavile's 383. Of course there's no guarantee he'd go 252 as I know a lot of Gyara just use enough to outspeed Starmie after the boost but the analysis does reccomend 252 Spe and according to Dougs stats 48.2% of Gyara run max speed (and that stat deceives a little considering how popular Bulky Gyara/ResTalk Gyara is) so it's probably better to assume that Weavile cannot outrun +1 offensive Gyarados. The fact I've dissected points like that should show just how much I enjoyed it, so once again - good job! 5 stars for sure. __________________ Lee

Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:21:50 PM	#33
cantab Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,358 England	Great warstory! The gg trick was indeed sneaky...remember, it isn't over until it's over! __________________ "If I may guess, Emboar might be an exception to the norm that the scalding liquid is expelled from the Pokémon's mouth" - Cobraroll, on Emboar learning Scald. "Nothing like a cup of tea to start off the day" - Professor Oak, EP025.

Jan 2nd, 2010, 3:55:05 PM	#27
*Iconic Super Moderator** Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,784 Canadaland Mentor	Good warstory Rey, I enjoyed reading it!

Jan 2nd, 2010, 4:34:03 PM	#34
Berserker Lord unreliable analysis writer. Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,138	finally a good warstory to look at from all the other subpar ones

Jan 2nd, 2010, 5:45:46 PM	#38
HSA Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 738	Dude.This.Was.Awesome. Especially with all these bad warstories popping up lately. __________________ Danilo swag <@Delta2777> semen is good for your teeth <@Delta2777> it also has protein <@Delta2777> thats why I eat <@Delta2777> all of my semen <@Delta2777> when I jerk off

Jan 2nd, 2010, 5:56:43 PM	#39
WECAMEASROMANS Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 297 NY	Reyscarface, this battle was amazing, considering many other warstories sucked. This is why you should run your own sets, instead of just copying off Smogon all the time. It gets way too predictable, and Syl used his own unorthodox sets to gain a huge advantage. Oh, and btw, I absolutely hate players who bluff during a match, it requires way too much thinking. Plus, its a really dirty trick. But, good game to both of you.

Jan 2nd, 2010, 5:58:50 PM	#40
Bilaterus Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 71 In my room. Always.	What a fantastic warstory. The excellent format and brilliant comments perfectly complemented the engaging and tense battle which included effective use of creative Pokemon and movesets. Great job! This is definitely one of the best warstories around. __________________ "Aren't you a little old to be playing Pokemon?" "Yes. Yes I am."

Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:05:20 PM	#41
MrIndigo Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,194 NSW, Australia	I think Syl played better than ILJ as far as predictions went; while ILJ made a few cunning plays, like baiting Stone Edge with Mence to switch to Magnezone, he also made a few questionable sacrifices (letting Weavile fall with Gyarados and Gliscor both in the wings) and some fairly simple mistakes (not using Substitute against Azelf when Stealth Rock was the obvious play, given you'd just revealed Salamence in the wings). However. This was an entertaining battle and the description of thought processes was great. A nice change from the recent batch of mediocre warstories.

Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:15:18 PM	#42
KnightoftheWind Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,071 Way past cool	An excellent change from all the bad warstories that have been popping up lately. It was an excellent battle and the comments were very well writen. Nice work reyscarface and Syl. __________________ To live a life of power, you must have faith that what you believe is right, even if others tell you you're wrong. The first thing you must do to live a life of power is to find courage. You must be ready to reach beyond the boundaries of Time itself. And to do that, all you need is the will to take that first step....

Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:47:35 PM	#44
YTP Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,240 . . . . . . . . . . . . .	Great match and great commentary. __________________ sp00n :o

Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:50:42 PM	#45
Chou Toshio Hmmm... A name for the plan... Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,946 Sea Forest	Really great battle guys! What Weavile really needs is not Crunch, but Technician (Faint Attack, Ice Shard, etc.). . . :D __________________ "Hmmm... a name for this plan..."

Jan 2nd, 2010, 6:51:15 PM	#46
lati0s Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,492	very nice warstory, one of the best in a while. __________________ Formerly latios315

Jan 2nd, 2010, 7:08:47 PM	#47
Staraptor Call Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,422 Avatar by Lorak	I'm glad to see another great warstory coming from you, rey. The battle was full of prediction at almost every turn, and came down to a close finish. The way you did the comments was good as well, because it shows both players' predictions. This warstory should go in the Archive. __________________ ∩_∩ ¼_¼ φ_φ

Jan 2nd, 2010, 7:45:40 PM	#48
Amake Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 152	Nice battle / warstory!

Jan 2nd, 2010, 10:27:40 PM	#50
SilentVerse Into the New World Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 649	This was a great battle and warstory! It certainly was an engaging battle and I was constantly wondering what both of you would do next.