Best In-Game NPC

[reyscarface]

MIROR B

Cmon the dude has like 4 Ludicolos all with Rain Dish, like 5 levels higher than your pokes, they have Rain Dance, and theres fucking salsa music as background.

Nothing is cooler than that.

Lol shit just noticed this is for RBY my bad haha

[jErry07]

The "Leader" of psyducks on the route 210(the one where you should use the secretpotion champion gave to you)

He was like, "uh, wrong direction".. Lol..

[Vineon]

Originally Posted by Fat cantab

ERR, WHAT?! I don't know how you play RBY, but I'd be a lot higher than that by the end of Mt Moon. More like 12-14 I think. For a Bulbasaur starter you'll want to have reached level 13 for Vine Whip before beating Brock, and for Charmander you're in for a tougher game anyway. I suppose maybe if you had Squirtle and five other Pokemon, and were equally levelling them, you'd be at those low levels - but getting a full team so early isn't the easiest way to beat the game.

Certainly no trainer in Mt Moon has ever given me any trouble.

"errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr what????!"

.......

Feels like massive overleveling to me.

Perhaps it is because I tend to train too many pokémons, as you pointed out, but I've always been underleveled against that Raticate, who frankly, would still be a tough fight for an even leveled bulbasaur. The thing has evolved, is faster and packs a stabbed 80 base power move that can flinch your ass.

That said, the trainer also comes after Mt Moon, which means after you've been through the whole dungeon. You are bound to hit him with a very fatigued team. No doubt in my mind, it is the hardest trainer in the game and by quite a long shot. Moreover, if you've noticed, he's been toned down majorly in the remakes.

Besides, who cares about the 'easiest way' to beat the game. The easiest way probably is using your starter all the way through, it insures you to be overleveled to the very end. I remember my brother doing that with Blastoise, but what the hell is the fun in that?

And I did pick bulbasaur.

[Altmer]

My pokemon tend to be level 15 around mt. moon

[ventus603]

One of my favorite NPCs is the Rocket Grunt in the Hideout in G/S/C. He said "Hyuck Hyuck Hyuck" and had a like a lv16 raticate then he made an encore appearance in the Underground during the Radio Tower takeover which i LOVED. " Hyuck,Hyuck,Hyuck remember me from the hideout?"

[traitor_dice]

I'd have to say that I really liked Looker from Platinum. that guy was pretty ninja, and he was one of the few npcs that didnt make me want to bash A to get through the conversation as quickly as possible.

R/S: steven. you see him throughout the game, then just at the end he comes back to kick your ass.

R/B/Y: gotta be lance. that guy was actually a pretty cool character, and his dragonite was a nightmare if you didn't happen to know he had it. (i got ambushed by it on my first Red playhtrough. i then went and trained the silph Co lapras purely to icebeam its face.) he just proves hes a badass when hes back in GSC still as the head of the elite 4.

[froggy25]

*remember the guy with the lv 58 Magikarp in japanese Gold lol*

[UncleSam]

Originally Posted by Fat Vineon

"errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr what????!"

.......

Feels like massive overleveling to me.

Perhaps it is because I tend to train too many pokémons, as you pointed out, but I've always been underleveled against that Raticate, who frankly, would still be a tough fight for an even leveled bulbasaur. The thing has evolved, is faster and packs a stabbed 80 base power move that can flinch your ass.

That said, the trainer also comes after Mt Moon, which means after you've been through the whole dungeon. You are bound to hit him with a very fatigued team. No doubt in my mind, it is the hardest trainer in the game and by quite a long shot. Moreover, if you've noticed, he's been toned down majorly in the remakes.

Besides, who cares about the 'easiest way' to beat the game. The easiest way probably is using your starter all the way through, it insures you to be overleveled to the very end. I remember my brother doing that with Blastoise, but what the hell is the fun in that?

And I did pick bulbasaur.

I remember this guy. Ya, he was really, really hard. But I would say he was not the hardest trainer because it is OPTIONAL to battle him. The hardest, most over leveled trainer in RBY that you HAVE to fight has to be Gary, at the entrance to Victory Road. Even power levelling right before fighting him cannot get you to those types of levels. Plus, if you chose Bulbasaur, he packed an Alakazam and an Exeggutaur. I always had so much trouble with those two.

[cantab]

Originally Posted by Fat Vineon

That said, the trainer also comes after Mt Moon, which means after you've been through the whole dungeon. You are bound to hit him with a very fatigued team. No doubt in my mind, it is the hardest trainer in the game and by quite a long shot. Moreover, if you've noticed, he's been toned down majorly in the remakes.

Well I normally make a few excursions into Mt Moon. I don't try and get all the items and beat all the trainers in one trip, I don't have the PP for that. When my Pokemon are looking too weak, I go back to the Pokemon centre. It's an approach I use in tough dungeons in pretty much all RPGs, and it works. Mt Moon as a whole is one of the harder parts of the game, no doubt about it. But I don't recall trouble with any specific trainer, probably because I don't try "to hit him with a very fatigued team" - a team in such a state sends me scurrying back to the Pokemon Centre.
Of course it's been a while since I played RBY. Maybe that trainer's harder than I remember.

[Mekkah**]

I remember this guy. Ya, he was really, really hard. But I would say he was not the hardest trainer because it is OPTIONAL to battle him. The hardest, most over leveled trainer in RBY that you HAVE to fight has to be Gary, at the entrance to Victory Road. Even power levelling right before fighting him cannot get you to those types of levels. Plus, if you chose Bulbasaur, he packed an Alakazam and an Exeggutaur. I always had so much trouble with those two.

Just because he is optional doesn't change his difficulty any at that point. I agree he is among the hardest opponents, especially if you don't know what's coming.

[traitor_dice]

Originally Posted by Fat cantab

Well I normally make a few excursions into Mt Moon. I don't try and get all the items and beat all the trainers in one trip, I don't have the PP for that. When my Pokemon are looking too weak, I go back to the Pokemon centre. It's an approach I use in tough dungeons in pretty much all RPGs, and it works. Mt Moon as a whole is one of the harder parts of the game, no doubt about it. But I don't recall trouble with any specific trainer, probably because I don't try "to hit him with a very fatigued team" - a team in such a state sends me scurrying back to the Pokemon Centre.
Of course it's been a while since I played RBY. Maybe that trainer's harder than I remember.

I always just sweep through mt. moon in one trip without any trouble.

the one time i had alot of trouble in a dungeon was in RBY when i wandered into the rock tunnel without flash. i was lost for weeks.

[cantab]

Well I don't run from the Geodudes and Zubats. If I did I could probably do it in one run easily.

For Rock Tunnel, on a GBC or GBA one of the colour schemes (one of the brown ones) lets you distinguish the walls. Press various combinations of directions and A and B at startup and you should find it.

[Nomad]

Stephen Stone

[mtr]

Best In-Game NPC? No contest at all. It's the Juggler in Koga's Gym that says "Whoops, dropped my balls!".

[pastel]

the girl with a corsola in creystal.

She just had a corsola(and maybe another pokemon)
she was the worst to take out, my ember didn't hurt her corsola, and she almost beat me..

[Brammi]

The chicks hiding on the day care route in GSC.

Nah Easily the guy that decides to run a specialty health shop in the most out of the way city of the pokeworld.

[Skye]

More or likely Prof. Oak's Data Battle...Using a Code to battle him was pretty interesting...But I had the most trouble with Whitney and that stupid Miltank that would Rollout my Cyndaquil or her Clefairy that would Metronome a Hailstorm and knock me out, I mean really, what are the chances of hitting Hail out of all the Moves in the game...
Red's status was Ultra, but really wasn't the toughest. I'd say brock with my Charmander but I was cheap and caught and Trained a Nidoran and taught it Double Kick. lol

Steven in Emerald was such a Badass though.

[cantab]

I wonder why they removed Oak's battle? Maybe because of the dialogue where he says he 'only has three left' - Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle. For him to show up with a full team would contradict that. And Agatha refers to him no longer being an active trainer too. Would be cool to ask the devs.

[High Turtle]

That bug catcher on the route above Vermilion City with 1 level 20 Butterfree. God, that thing would just annoy the hell out of me with its confusing me and putting me to sleep and paralyzing me.

[Randominator]

Silver, hands down. (see sig)

I also like Lance, Misty, and Professor Oak. I don't know if Clair counts because this is technically a R/B/Y discussion, but she's awesome too.

Side note: HONEY GRUNTS FTW.

[porky]

blue for sure.

[The Beast]

Originally Posted by Fat swatkins44

its gotta be blue. the guy who is always ahead of you no matter how hard you try. It feels as if you may not become the pokemon master you had dreamed to be. but you keep going. make it to the elite for and lo and behold you beat them! you are the master. but wait, there is blue yet again. he had beaten you to the punch and is the pokemon master. only after you beat him will you become the greatest ever, and the final boss in GSC.

And he was such a dick too haha

[Xaiph]

Probably those two guys in RSE that want big Barbroach and Shroomish. XD

[The Pokemon Pimp]

For GSC, Whitney was pretty annoying. For RSE, Steven Stone was my main bro.

But RBY...definitely the rival I think. I can't really remember anything else haha

[SlottedPig]

Hardest: GSC: Koga. Why? Sentret-only run.

Most Annoying: Whitney. That Miltank HACKS.

Random Shoutout: In the Kanto regions where you fight Blue just before the nugget bridge. L17 Pidgeotto... (although you'll understand if you play Yellow) I smell GameShark?

Favorite: Nurse Joy.
Duh. Free heals. (How does she make a living??)

EDIT:

Gameshark meaning Pidgey evolves at level 18, but Pidgeotto is level 17.