(Archive) Small Objective Changes Thread

[jc104]

Gyarados Analysis. Choice Band, final paragraph:

"Tyranitar and Scizor can therefore make a great partner to this set as they can both easily take hits from Cresselia, hit back with super effective STAB attacks or even Pursuit should Cresselia try to switch out"

should read: "Tyranitar and Scizor can therefore make great partners..."

[Komodo]

Originally Posted by Fat Lisztomania

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/magnezone

28 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe is the indicated spread on the SubSalac sweeper set, 12 EVs are missing

Fixed. I added the extra EVs into Defense as they would just hinder the HP and not helpt he Speed outrun anything significant.

Originally Posted by Fat monkfish

HeaTrap team options (last paragraph)

vaporeon, the excellent vaporeon counter

not sure how this is supposed to read, probably that vaporeon is the gyarados counter and celebi for vaporeon. it's just a little awkward !

Do you have access to do this yourself? I changed this, hope it sounds okay now.

Originally Posted by Fat jc104

Gyarados Analysis. Choice Band, final paragraph:

"Tyranitar and Scizor can therefore make a great partner to this set as they can both easily take hits from Cresselia, hit back with super effective STAB attacks or even Pursuit should Cresselia try to switch out"

should read: "Tyranitar and Scizor can therefore make great partners..."

Okay. That is a little awkward, fixed.

[jc104]

Not quite sure what's going on here. Empoleon analysis, lead set:

If the 80% accuracy of Hydro Pump is an issue for you, you can choose to run Surf. When running Surf, you must run a Rash nature and use an EV spread of 52 Def / 104 Atk / 252 SpA / Spe in order to still KO Azelf with Surf and Aqua Jet. Also, Shuca Berry is the item of choice when using Surf, as without Hydro Pump's power, Empoleon will lose to Metagross just about every time, as it cannot survive Earthquake and Bullet Punch without additional bulk. With Shuca Berry, you have at least a 48% chance of 2HKOing it with Surf.

There would seem to be a number missing- should it say 100 speed?

[Xia]

Originally Posted by Fat jc104

Not quite sure what's going on here. Empoleon analysis, lead set:

Quote:
If the 80% accuracy of Hydro Pump is an issue for you, you can choose to run Surf. When running Surf, you must run a Rash nature and use an EV spread of 52 Def / 104 Atk / 252 SpA / Spe in order to still KO Azelf with Surf and Aqua Jet. Also, Shuca Berry is the item of choice when using Surf, as without Hydro Pump's power, Empoleon will lose to Metagross just about every time, as it cannot survive Earthquake and Bullet Punch without additional bulk. With Shuca Berry, you have at least a 48% chance of 2HKOing it with Surf.
There would seem to be a number missing- should it say 100 speed?

I believe you are correct jc104. I've gone ahead and made your change.

[Diesel]

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/heracross

Originally Posted by Fat Swords Dance, P1

Heracross’s Choice sets may be its most common options, but neither constitutes a straightforward sweeping set, not only because of the inability to switch attacks, but also due the large number of Pokémon that resist its individual attacks

Also can I change this myself or is there only certain badgeholders that can? :P

EDIT: Putting on my big boy shoes and doing it myself.

[supermarth64]

If you have a badge, just go to SCMS and you can do it yourself.

[Fizz]

In the CAP Threat Descriptions article, under dragonite, it says

Cyclohm is also a someone who Dragonite needs to fight for a teamslot with.

This should be simply "someone", not "a someone".

[Fuzznip]

Thank you Purpureal.

EDIT: Got Purpureal's edit beneath. Thanks.

[Fizz]

I'm not sure if this is something you want people to do, so please tell me if it's not, but I've found another error in the same article.

Forretress also finds more opponents in CAP than in OU who find Forretress set-up bait, especially Revenankh and Pyroak, both of whom can set up Bulk Up and Dragon Dance, respectively.

"both of whom" in this sentence is misleading, implying that both pokémon can set up with both Bulk up and Dragon Dance. In my view it should be changed simply to "who".

[Rama]

In Absol's writeup in the Strategy Pokedex, the majority of words that have an apostrophe ' and are followed by the letter s, seem to be double spaced like so, Absol' s or Milotic' s and aren' t.
this happens in every set, and continues throughout the "other options" and so on, very minor but perhaps should be looked at.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/absol

EDIT: jc104, it still shows these errors when i look at it.

[jc104]

In Absol's writeup in the Strategy Pokedex, the majority of words that have an apostrophe ' and are followed by the letter s, seem to be double spaced like so, Absol' s or Milotic' s and aren' t.
this happens in every set, and continues throughout the "other options" and so on, very minor but perhaps should be looked at.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/absol

Unless someone already fixed it, this doesn't appear to be the case (for me anyway)

[Umbreon Dan]

it doesn't do it for me, either. o_o

[jumpluff*]

it's fixed evidently

[Rama]

the fact that im on a psp might have something to do with it, it also happens a few times in articunos analysis as well, in support "With the addition of roost to Articuno' s" and throughout other options, can someone check to see if its just me.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/articuno

EDIT: the errors for absol still appear when i look at it, so it may only be me.

[Komodo]

Originally Posted by Fat pokerama

the fact that im on a psp might have something to do with it, it also happens a few times in articunos analysis as well, in support "With the addition of roost to Articuno' s" and throughout other options, can someone check to see if its just me.
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/articuno

EDIT: the errors for absol still appear when i look at it, so it may only be me.

This example uses a different style apostrophe so it may show up differently. These should all be ' as standard. I'll change those.

[Banedon]

The Uxie analysis page (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/uxie):

Countering this set is very difficult because of dual screens. Uxie survives a +2 Night Slash from an Adamant Absol, taking only around 57.63% - 68.36% with Reflect up. Mismagius can freely switch in and set up Substitute and proceed to use Calm Mind, so trapping it is crucial so it doesn't come and ruin your setup. The perfect partner to work with this set is Spiritomb. Light Screen can aid Spiritomb by cushioning Shadow Balls from Mismagius if it decides to stay in, and Spiritomb can retaliate with Dark Pulse or Pursuit. Brick Break can also ruin this strategy, and since a Ghost-types are immune to Brick Break, switching Spiritomb in will enable you to preserve your screens.

If I'm not mistaken Brick Break, even if it hits Spiritomb, breaks screens. The Brick Break page (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/brick_break) certainly supports this:

Performs an accuracy check; then destroys Light Screen and Reflect on the target's side of the field; and then hits. Destroys the screens even if the hit does not affect the target, but not if the move misses.

[jc104]

Regardless of whether that is right, there is a rather horrible grammatical error in there that needs to be fixed. It should say simply "Ghost-types" and not "a Ghost-types." This might be one of those areas where Shoddy behaves differently to in-game.

[Umbreon Dan]

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/ludicolo

the ou subseeder set has a broken abilities link. it looks like the link was added incorrectly and it tries to link to rain_dish__swift_swim

[Fuzznip]

Thanks Dan, I fixed that.

[frogbandit]

When I search Light Ball, it redirects to Mist Ball. =/

Also, why is it that when I type in Rotom-H (or any Rotom forme) and Soul Dew (and im sure theres a few more), it redirects to the Google Search rather than the actual analysis page?

[Banedon]

On the guide to baton passing (http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/baton_pass_chains):

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 192 HP / 252 Def / 60 Spe
Calm nature (+SpD, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Substitute
- Wish
- Ice Beam

With some defensive boosts Passed to it, Vaporeon becomes very difficult to take down. It supports the team with Wish, and Passes very bulky Substitutes to the rest of the teammates. With 66 Speed EVs, it outruns Starmie, Gengar, and others in the base 115 group after receiving an Agility boost. A Calm nature grants it more bulk on the special side; ideally, it should have Defense boosts from Scizor to boost its ability to handle other physical attacks.

The build gives Vaporeon 60 speed EVs, not 66.

[jumpluff*]

Gengar isn't even base 115 >_> It only needs 60 EVs when passed an Agility, so fixed. Thanks!

[Xia]

Originally Posted by Fat Banedon

The Uxie analysis page (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/uxie):



If I'm not mistaken Brick Break, even if it hits Spiritomb, breaks screens. The Brick Break page (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/brick_break) certainly supports this:

Originally Posted by Fat jc104

Regardless of whether that is right, there is a rather horrible grammatical error in there that needs to be fixed. It should say simply "Ghost-types" and not "a Ghost-types." This might be one of those areas where Shoddy behaves differently to in-game.

Since this isn't true I've gone ahead and removed the entire sentence (this is really only a temporary change, since an entirely new analysis is being written up as we speak).

[Banedon]

EDIT: nevermind Quick Feet nullifies paralysis.

[jc104]

PS: few days ago I made a post here about Brick Break destroying screens on the Uxie analysis page. It's gone missing, I can't find it and the original page hasn't changed. Just wondering what's happened to it?

If I understand correctly, badged users make the change on the SCMS, but this does not instantly update - it has to be first checked by the site staff.

I think Quick Feet bypasses the speed drop from thunder wave. The consideration is, however, that most Quick Feet ursaring are already carrying Toxic Orb, meaning that using Toxic is redundant, but not dangerous. Paralysis is probably of benefit to them though. The same is true for using will-o-wisp on a guts version.