Smogon Shoddy Server Statistics - June 2010 - Page 3

CobraJSF · Jul 8th, 2010, 10:03:16 PM

I lol'd when I saw shaymin as 21 in suspect and 64 in standard.

shrang · Jul 8th, 2010, 10:12:33 PM

Okay, this is getting ridiculous.

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| 41 | Umbreon | 42191 | 4.22 |

Look at me, I'm Umbreon, come on in, Infernape, SD Lucario, Tauntrados, come in and kick my ass!!

OU Lead:

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| 14 | Uxie | 20314 | 2.03 |

Hello, I'm TrickScarf Uxie. Do you have ScarfTar on your team?? If you do, please bring him out so I can get waste myself for you.

ala · Jul 8th, 2010, 10:25:38 PM

Uxie is a pretty reliable lead in OU actually, it's one of the ones I have the most trouble with! The screens one especially...

STEELDRAGON · Jul 8th, 2010, 10:56:24 PM

I am quite happy, Scizor is losing popularity. People are now realizing how much potential Heatran has. I am also glad Gengar and Gyarados are rising in Usage. Where Has Heracross gone? I could never imagine Heracross in UU, may be BL though.However, I am predicting Heracross usage to rise soon. Thanks for that stas! :)

Eggbert · Jul 8th, 2010, 11:09:31 PM

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Hello, I'm TrickScarf Uxie. Do you have ScarfTar on your team?? If you do, please bring him out so I can get waste myself for you.

While umbreon does get slaughtered, Uxie does not. Scarftar can't OHKO (50.8% - 59.9%) uxie with pursuit as it switches. Not to mention being stuck on pursuit so early on really sucks for ttar. This also means if ttar is shown/beaten early, sweepers like gengar can be played safely.

shrang · Jul 8th, 2010, 11:15:55 PM

Losing 50% for free in the early game for Uxie while doing absolutely nothing is not a good way to be starting off the match, even if it mean locking yourself into Pursuit (You still have 5 other Pokemon to deal with Lucario or whatever the hell wants to set up)

TEA_DEMON · Jul 9th, 2010, 3:27:28 AM

Very interesting set of stats, thanks a bunch Doug.

_Freak_ · Jul 9th, 2010, 4:30:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat shrang

Hello, I'm TrickScarf Uxie. Do you have ScarfTar on your team?? If you do, please bring him out so I can get waste myself for you.

Thats why some people are playing yawn+u-turn uxie. Also leads like azelf often don't taunt uxie because they fear to get tricked. That makes it a pretty reliable lead.

Vaz · Jul 9th, 2010, 4:30:36 AM

There are some interesting changes to the metagame this month, most likely influenced by the Suspect ladder. People's awareness has raised into how effective Heatran is in today's metagame. Due to this, Scizor has gone in usage.

Thanks for the stats Doug!

TubaKing · Jul 9th, 2010, 4:36:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Blue Pigeon

I also thought there would be more colbur berry Azelf leads especially with Machamp rising, I guess it hasn't cought on yet.

I was thinking the same thing. When I first looked at the stats I figured Azelf lead usage went up last month because of the Colbur set, but apparently < 8% of Azelf used an item that wasn't Focus Sash, Life Orb, or Choice Scarf.
Once the set catches on, though, Machamp lead usage should go waaaaay down.
I'm definitely not complaining though.

Thanks for the stats, Doug!

Shimrit As · Jul 9th, 2010, 12:03:08 PM

I <3 you Doug.

Starmie and Infernape breaking into the top ten seems to make sense, with Latias gone and Salamence and Tyranitar dropping. I also notice that since a few months ago Gengar has been steadily rising, displacing Rotom-A in May and Jirachi in June. It's a good check to SD Lucario, LO Heatran and Infernape for offensive teams. I will attribute these to the decreased popularity of ScarfTar, as 30% of Tyranitar carried a Scarf in June as compared to 36% in May. More are also using Adamant instead of Jolly, along with more CB usage.

Edit: And woah, Azelf usage as a lead just keeps on rising.. even though so many leads are customized to shut it down (Machamp, TrickScarf Uxie, Starmie..) Machamp's rise is not surprising but I would have expected Metagross to rise alongside it because LumGross is a very good answer to Lead Machamp. Starmie leads have shot to prominence in recent months, and WTF why has Roserade risen when so many leads now carry Lum to guard against Mahcamp?

Star Flare · Jul 9th, 2010, 2:51:57 PM

Starmie's the #15 lead now? I'm guessing that Smog article helped give it some attention at last. But I was using it long before it was cool. >_>

Cuiv · Jul 9th, 2010, 3:21:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat bugmaniacbob

Oh, and obligatory Heracross for UU comment. Unbalanced metagames seem to engender a strange exhilaration, methinks?

Heracross is raped by Scyther, though, and also by Moltres. I'm not convinced that it is unmanageable in UU.

Towelie · Jul 9th, 2010, 3:52:44 PM

I've been using Starmie lead since like... 5 Months ago. Thank you Scofield for popularizing it ^^

STEELDRAGON · Jul 9th, 2010, 4:11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cuiv

Heracross is raped by Scyther, though, and also by Moltres. I'm not convinced that it is unmanageable in UU.

Scarfed Heracross will make them think twice though, because Heracross easily OHKOs both of them easily with Stone Edge. Weezing is much more reliable at taking down Heracross, it can easily take any move it has, and can cripple it with WOW, however even then, Guts will make it even more difficult to take down.

FerrariCUBU · Jul 9th, 2010, 4:33:43 PM

Things seem to be getting back to the way they were before the whole obsession with BP Scizor and OU Latias. It's nice to see that things are moving around and the top ten aren't too centralized.

-FUCK- · Jul 9th, 2010, 5:36:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat STEELDRAGON

Scarfed Heracross will make them think twice though, because Heracross easily OHKOs both of them easily with Stone Edge. Weezing is much more reliable at taking down Heracross, it can easily take any move it has, and can cripple it with WOW, however even then, Guts will make it even more difficult to take down.

No one doesn't use guts on Heracross. All you need is stealth rock support and he would easily assrape UU.

STEELDRAGON · Jul 9th, 2010, 6:23:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat -FUCK-

No one doesn't use guts on Heracross. All you need is stealth rock support and he would easily assrape UU.

Your dead wrong there, according the June 2010 Statistics, 99.7% of Heracross on the Suspect Ladder had the ability Guts, and 94.2% on the Standard ladder had Guts. I agree, However, that most of the Heracross on the ladders are Scarfed.

btb · Jul 9th, 2010, 6:24:50 PM

Thanks for the stats Doug!

Lots of interesting changes have happened in OU with Starmie and Heatran usage rising and Scizor usage going down. It looks like Heracross is going to be UU. That will shake up the metagame... And Milotic looks like it's going to take Venusaur's No. 1 spot in UU.

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Originally Posted by Fat -FUCK-

No one doesn't use guts on Heracross. All you need is stealth rock support and he would easily assrape UU.

Cuiv · Jul 9th, 2010, 6:28:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat -FUCK-

No one doesn't use guts on Heracross. All you need is stealth rock support and he would easily assrape UU.

This is dumb. It's pretty much impossible to keep SR on the field in UU. And a Scarfed Heracross is easily revenged; it doesn't have the raw power (or consistency, due to using low-accuracy moves) of P-Z to be able to abuse a Scarf properly in UU.

Fizz · Jul 9th, 2010, 6:42:44 PM

Uh, guys, "no one doesn't use guts" is the same as saying "everyone uses guts".

btb · Jul 9th, 2010, 6:42:57 PM

It would be a good Choice Scarf pokemon if it could learn U-Turn :/
Substitute + three attacks is going to wreck things though.

Garaluo · Jul 9th, 2010, 6:47:40 PM

Looks like scizor might actually get overtaken!

STEELDRAGON · Jul 9th, 2010, 7:14:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Garaluo

Looks like scizor might actually get overtaken!

Yeah, I hope so, scizor has been #1 for a long time, and I think its about time for the "king" to get unseated. IMO, Heatran(besides Salamence) is the pokemon closest to being Uber. It is a great all round pokemon, the ulimate antimetagame pokemon.

Professor Oak · Jul 9th, 2010, 7:15:20 PM

Oh man. Heracross is seriously in danger of falling now. If I'm correct and we count Rotom-A as one Pokemon, Heracross has the lowest usage of all of the current OU Pokemon. I guess I better start thinking about making a UU team based around Heracross then =/

Machamp seriously is climbing up as a lead. Overtaking Metagross last month... can he overtake Swampert this month? What is with these Ninjask as well? Ah well.

Thanks for the stats Doug!

Jul 8th, 2010, 10:03:16 PM	#51
CobraJSF Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 126	I lol'd when I saw shaymin as 21 in suspect and 64 in standard. __________________ Outrage: One click win. (15:20) yellow: i don't see why any team shouldn't have a scraggy (15:20) yellow: it even has gg in its name

Jul 8th, 2010, 10:56:24 PM	#54
STEELDRAGON Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 451 私は奄美大島にすぐに移動	I am quite happy, Scizor is losing popularity. People are now realizing how much potential Heatran has. I am also glad Gengar and Gyarados are rising in Usage. Where Has Heracross gone? I could never imagine Heracross in UU, may be BL though.However, I am predicting Heracross usage to rise soon. Thanks for that stas! :) __________________ Just took a hiatus for a couple months, because of pc failure. I will try to get back into things who knows when, hopefully some time in the next few months

Jul 9th, 2010, 3:27:28 AM	#57
TEA_DEMON Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,441 the fall of every season	Very interesting set of stats, thanks a bunch Doug. __________________ last.fm \| "art"

Jul 9th, 2010, 4:30:36 AM	#59
Vaz Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 545	There are some interesting changes to the metagame this month, most likely influenced by the Suspect ladder. People's awareness has raised into how effective Heatran is in today's metagame. Due to this, Scizor has gone in usage. Thanks for the stats Doug! __________________ Vaz, WHAT? Bro, YEAH! Living the Dream: The Passion of Pokemon

Jul 9th, 2010, 12:03:08 PM	#61
Shimrit As Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 270 Singapore	I <3 you Doug. Starmie and Infernape breaking into the top ten seems to make sense, with Latias gone and Salamence and Tyranitar dropping. I also notice that since a few months ago Gengar has been steadily rising, displacing Rotom-A in May and Jirachi in June. It's a good check to SD Lucario, LO Heatran and Infernape for offensive teams. I will attribute these to the decreased popularity of ScarfTar, as 30% of Tyranitar carried a Scarf in June as compared to 36% in May. More are also using Adamant instead of Jolly, along with more CB usage. Edit: And woah, Azelf usage as a lead just keeps on rising.. even though so many leads are customized to shut it down (Machamp, TrickScarf Uxie, Starmie..) Machamp's rise is not surprising but I would have expected Metagross to rise alongside it because LumGross is a very good answer to Lead Machamp. Starmie leads have shot to prominence in recent months, and WTF why has Roserade risen when so many leads now carry Lum to guard against Mahcamp? __________________ ...

Jul 8th, 2010, 10:25:38 PM	#53
ala a Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3,967 mercinary	Uxie is a pretty reliable lead in OU actually, it's one of the ones I have the most trouble with! The screens one especially...

Jul 9th, 2010, 2:51:57 PM	#62
Star Flare Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 26	Starmie's the #15 lead now? I'm guessing that Smog article helped give it some attention at last. But I was using it long before it was cool. >_>

Jul 9th, 2010, 3:52:44 PM	#64
Towelie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 665 The Jesus of Suburbia	I've been using Starmie lead since like... 5 Months ago. Thank you Scofield for popularizing it ^^ __________________ It's your persistence that makes me sick. It's not the sight of your kind. And now I am so faint, caught up in just this way. I know that you can be more than this. This wasn't what I wanted. You said I sewed that dream alive. Climb farther into hate, is it this back seat making you itch? Morals become something from a dream. This isn't the way to blow off steam inside of your head. JONNYCRAIG4L

Jul 9th, 2010, 4:33:43 PM	#66
FerrariCUBU Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 122 Virginia	Things seem to be getting back to the way they were before the whole obsession with BP Scizor and OU Latias. It's nice to see that things are moving around and the top ten aren't too centralized. __________________ See me in action at http://www.youtube.com/user/FerrariCUBU

Jul 9th, 2010, 6:42:44 PM	#71
Fizz Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 801	Uh, guys, "no one doesn't use guts" is the same as saying "everyone uses guts".

Jul 9th, 2010, 6:42:57 PM	#72
btb Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 207 South of Heaven	It would be a good Choice Scarf pokemon if it could learn U-Turn :/ Substitute + three attacks is going to wreck things though. __________________ Come to the dark side... we have cookies!

Jul 9th, 2010, 6:47:40 PM	#73
Garaluo Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 80	Looks like scizor might actually get overtaken! __________________ HGFC: 3352 6308 5068 I'm mostly a VGC player, but I play some OU too. Not going to seriously look into the metagames until I finish Black.

Jul 9th, 2010, 7:15:20 PM	#75
Professor Oak Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8 England	Oh man. Heracross is seriously in danger of falling now. If I'm correct and we count Rotom-A as one Pokemon, Heracross has the lowest usage of all of the current OU Pokemon. I guess I better start thinking about making a UU team based around Heracross then =/ Machamp seriously is climbing up as a lead. Overtaking Metagross last month... can he overtake Swampert this month? What is with these Ninjask as well? Ah well. Thanks for the stats Doug! __________________ Scott TM aka Professor Oak