Pornography.

[Ballad]

I can't say I share a strong opinion as to whether or not pornography is good or bad, justified or unjustified. I tend to view it less as a perverted practice but moreso as a way to spend less time masturbating, which I find is helpful to aid calmness and as far as I know also is good for health by lowering blood pressure and reducing risk for testicular cancer. As far as pornography on its own I feel that there's nothing necessarily wrong with it. I mean, you could close your eyes and imagine the same stuff. It just takes the effort out of it. But I see a lot of people steadfastly against people watching/looking at porn, both video and picture. And I just can't understand it, because it's the same thing I could make myself see closing my eyes at bedtime. I can't really justify saying that there's anything really wrong with it.

Anyhow, I'd like to see some discussion on the smogonite's moral/practical opinions on porn, particularly video but also magazines etc. Do you think it's acceptable? Problematic? Disgusting? Natural? Weird? Something else? Share your thoughts.

[BIG loven]

Nothing wrong with watching some tight pussy, just keep it to yourself and don't go talking about all the shit you have fapped too. I think it's safe to say most of the people here on smogon will watch porn (some less then others)

[STEELDRAGON]

I think if you keep it hidden/private then there absolutely nothing wrong with it. People won't know, so you could avoid conflicts that way, and just keep watching it or whatever. Some people tend to think that it is a disgrace to women, but i don't see it that way. The actors in the movies obviously signed there self up. It's not like there forced or anything.

[Glen]

porn's fundamentally fucked up (the industry at least, amateur i guess isnt quite as bad because its less propagatory [propagative?] of these overwhelmingly negative attitudes towards women, it's kinda just two people having fun) but it isn't any more hegemonic than like, anything else in mainstream media, and it's not like these values and mores haven't existed for thousands of years anyway.

the irony is that the biggest opposition to pornography is even more oppressive towards women so..!

[assassinfred]

Nothing's wrong with watching some porn if no one else knows your doing it. It's a great way of getting rid of stress, as well as an excellent way to remove sexual desires.

As long as you don't tell anyone, there's nothing wrong with it. No one wants to know what the people in the video you watched last night did, so keep it to yourself.

[Fishy]

Originally Posted by Fat Sy123

So your saying that if you murdered a hundered children but no one knew, and no one will find out. Does that mean it is alright to do that?
Does it mean that its right to trade hacked pokemon, only if the mods dont see it?
Everyone who says that nothing is wrong with porn, has something wrong with them
Humans were not supposed to perve at others. Whether other people know or not.
It is also very disrespectful to the opposite gender too.

First of all, the murdering of 100 children is never in any universe equatable to trading hacked pokemon, you were on a good run and then you totally backtracked your self to hell? honestly it's laughable.

anyway, there isn't anything inherently "wrong" with porn, aside from it being maybe exceedingly vulgar/crude or just outlandish/shocking for some people. Personally, (as a girl) I don't enjoy watching porn at all, but then I don't masturbate either, and so I really see no need for sexual gratification outside of the act itself. It's really ignorant to say "Humans were not supposed to 'perv' at others," although I guess that really falls under a subjective umbrella and what your morals are. But it's certainly naive to say it's something we're not "supposed" to do, as if it's something we've been banned from doing or aren't allowed to do. We aren't supposed to murder people either, but since that's a for more egregious act and society has come to frown upon it (AS A WHOLE) (talk about speaking lightly) people see it as wrong.

The fact that porn is always seen as disrespectful to women is a stigma that is never going to go away, and is pretty stupid in my opinion. It's the same stigma that claims men who fuck a lot of women are heroes, but women who fuck a lot of men are sluts. That's never (probably) going to change, and although it sucks for women, who cares. Women in porn obviously don't have a problem disrespecting themselves, and the money is either worth it or they simply don't give a shit and like to embrace their inner-hussy.

I don't think anyone has the right to say (ultimately) whether or not porn is WRONG or NOT RIGHT or whathaveyou, but personally I think it's p. disgusting and a weird thing to watch, I don't care if you get off on it and you "relieve stress" or anything else, it's just gross!! DAMN. Also, @OP you say porn makes you masturbate less? So what do you do whilst watching porn, stare at it intently? Maybe masturbate less without visual stimuli, but uh, you're still jerkin' it I'm pretty sure.

it's uncomfortable to watch strangers having sex openly and publicly, but how do you think all the animals feel seeing their bffs mate on the discovery channel?? I think we're just being a little selfish here. (please don't take that bit seriously ahaha)

[Alan]

I don't think there is anything wrong with porn. I mean, its nothing people should advocate or try to praise as some saving career to young girls. I completely agree with Fishy about the women who do it, do it for a reason that they feel is justified. And that is their decision. Leave them be. Nobody is forcing anyone to watch porn. Its pretty natural for teenage kids to want to get rid of that feeling in their pants, and its a lot better to jerk off into an old sweat sock than knock up a girl and have a child you can't support.

Fishy basically said everything I wanted too, but with more words.

Also i lol'd at loven's post.