Smogon Shoddy Server Statistics - July 2010 - Page 4

B-Lulz · Aug 8th, 2010, 7:49:26 PM

how is shaymin still only 45? my god lol

thanks for the stats

The Pokemon Pimp · Aug 8th, 2010, 10:59:25 PM

Thanks for the stats, Doug!

This batch of stats seemed predictable to me. Everyone missing Mence thought Nite would be Mence Lite, so it gained some usage as the most powerful dragon left in the tier. The only thing that didn't really make sense is Starmie, but it has always been solid, especially to clean up, like IcyMan28 said.

Super Mario Bro · Aug 8th, 2010, 11:59:51 PM

Magnezone is dropping like a rock.

(Yes!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat jc104

Wow I can't believe how low Shaymin usage is. I swear that thing is everywhere. That STAB seed flare and better typing make it hugely more threatening than Celebi.

I think Celebi will always have a higher rank than Shaymin mainly because it can check Breloom and has access to Recover. Not to say Shaymin doesn't have its uses as well (Seed Flare will always be awesome).

SHUCKLE MAN · Aug 9th, 2010, 8:18:02 AM

Starmie isn't the most surprising thing in the world. It's a bit higher than I expected, but it has been OU for like the past 10 years.

Ice-eyes · Aug 9th, 2010, 12:28:18 PM

Shaymin is a much better offensive pokemon because Seed Flare is so spammable and it's much harder to force out. Celebi does defensive (Recover, Fighting resist, T-Wave) and Scarf (Trick/U-Turn) better.

SandslashPWNS · Aug 9th, 2010, 12:41:54 PM

I honestly thought that Dragonite's usage would be a little bit higher than it is. With decent bulk and access to Extremespeed, Dragonite can effectively check the likes of Infernape, Starmie, Shaymin, Breloom, and Jolteon.

Starmie's high usage was expected for me. I just wonder why it took this long for people to use it like this. LO Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Hydro Pump wreak havoc on offensive teams, while Rapid Spin destroys Stall. Even with Mence, people should have used Starmie as a scarfer for the DD set.

Anyway, thanks, Doug. These stats will definitely be useful for me when I make my next RMT.

Ice-eyes · Aug 9th, 2010, 12:48:18 PM

I think that, when raging about how the likes of Shaymin and Dragonite are low in usage, people are forgetting that Salamence wasn't banned for anything like the whole of the month. It's number 18! August stats should give us a more accurate picture of the metagame. Expect Scizor to drop lower (iirc it was down to 7 on Suspect).

Bribery · Aug 9th, 2010, 12:54:25 PM

I'm not really surprised about Starmie's usage. It was always a major offensive threat to most teams. Besides, LO Starmie is the anti-metagame Pokemon. It can single-handedly break most F/W/G cores apart.

cosmicexplorer · Aug 9th, 2010, 4:05:54 PM

I just came back from vacation, so I couldn't thank you for these stats, Doug. Sorry, but thanks! I thought Suicune would be at least 17th, but I guess people like Swampert more.

Ice-eyes · Aug 9th, 2010, 5:59:22 PM

Offensive Cune says 'bulky Starmie' better than Milotic imo.

Smith · Aug 9th, 2010, 10:58:31 PM

Starmie | Ability | Illuminate | 5.2
Lol.

Ericcc · Aug 9th, 2010, 10:59:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Fried Rhys

If only Suicune had recover

That's a one way ticket to the Ubers tier in my opinion.

YaM · Aug 10th, 2010, 12:09:02 AM

UU Top 10 July 2008/2009/2010 (and rankings in 2010)

2008 2009 2010
1. Steelix (42) Roserade (BL) Milotic
2. Claydol (31) Registeel Venusaur
3. Rotom (14) Mismagius Mismagius
4. Hitmontop Milotic Spiritomb
5. Clefable (11) Uxie Arcanine
6. Swellow (28) Yanmega (BL) Uxie
7. Ninetales (69) Blaziken (20) Registeel
8. Hitmonlee (21) Hitmontop Rhyperior
9. Toxicroak (23) Ambipom (13) Houndoom
10. Leafeon (43) Azumarill (18) Hitmontop

Hitmontop heh.

petrie911 · Aug 10th, 2010, 2:25:36 AM

Roserade isn't BL, it's OU. In fact, Roserade jumped up to OU before getting the chance to be nominated (it was probably next after Yanmega), so it'd actually fall right back to UU should it lose enough usage.

Shimrit As · Aug 10th, 2010, 7:35:28 AM

The increased utility of Toxic Spikes should mean more Roserade?

Ice-eyes · Aug 10th, 2010, 2:29:33 PM

Yeah, with the Dragon/Steel era over, Toxic Spikes are now much better - there're a lot more bulky waters around, and poison also cripples stuff like Shaymin.

blasphemy1 · Aug 10th, 2010, 2:41:16 PM

Roserade is also able to combat bulky waters along with Celebi / Shaymin, not to mention Charge Beam Rotom-A (who does pretty well with a Substitute up against the Grass/Fire/Water cores).

Ice-eyes · Aug 10th, 2010, 4:26:41 PM

Choice Band Dragonite is really, really good at the moment actually. With the rise of teams like Lead/Fire/Water/Grass/Ghost/Dragon, many teams' bulkiest Steel is Heatran, which takes 48.3% - 57.3% from an Adamant CB Outrage (and can't do anything back).

SlottedPig · Aug 10th, 2010, 7:30:53 PM

I played Suspect 2 months ago and the stats right now make me sad. Breloom at #1 lead ... there must be VERY few players D=

GaRgAnt · Aug 10th, 2010, 9:40:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Ice-eyes

Choice Band Dragonite is really, really good at the moment actually. With the rise of teams like Lead/Fire/Water/Grass/Ghost/Dragon, many teams' bulkiest Steel is Heatran, which takes 48.3% - 57.3% from an Adamant CB Outrage (and can't do anything back).

After SR damage and two turns of Sand Storm Dragonite is KOed by a Timid Max Special Attack Dragon Pulse............

Okay, I'm... I WAS... the only person who ran Scarftran with Dragon Pulse since it fucked over Adamant Kingdras/Dragonites that wanted to set up on me. I would still be if it wasn't for Shoddy getting taken away.

D0nut Eater · Aug 10th, 2010, 9:53:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat ThePowerWithin

I played Suspect 2 months ago and the stats right now make me sad. Breloom at #1 lead ... there must be VERY few players D=

That is because the Suspect ladder was only open for a very short time this month. Notice there was only 1014 battles.

Epic_Andy · Aug 11th, 2010, 5:34:45 AM

Thanks for the stats Doug :)

min min · Aug 11th, 2010, 5:47:41 AM

Hmm. 5.2 out of 100 Shoddiers don't bother to set an ability or use a SKILL SWAP STARMIE.
Oh, and Magnezone dropping like a rock? Damn Scizor drop in usage.

Ice-eyes · Aug 11th, 2010, 9:42:39 AM

It's quite funny when you get to set up on the second Sleep Powder from Roserade because you accidentally gave your Starmie Illuminate... But yeah, Illuminate is the default in the Team Builder which really kinda sucks.

NightShadow · Aug 12th, 2010, 11:08:48 AM

amazing changes this month.

milotic is number 1 in UU.

machamp climbs to no. 2 lead (beat aerodactyl D:).

heracross is WAY too powerful for UU. slap a choice scarf on it, press an attack and win the game (sorta :P), once checks are eliminated.]

heatran jumps to no. 1 (OWNED SCIZOR IN YO FACE!).

dragonite has a HUGE jump.

awesome stats in july :D

Aug 8th, 2010, 10:59:25 PM	#77
The Pokemon Pimp Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 662 Florida	Thanks for the stats, Doug! This batch of stats seemed predictable to me. Everyone missing Mence thought Nite would be Mence Lite, so it gained some usage as the most powerful dragon left in the tier. The only thing that didn't really make sense is Starmie, but it has always been solid, especially to clean up, like IcyMan28 said. __________________ Currently chronicling my Pokemon Emerald Let's Play! Check it out here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3470480

Aug 9th, 2010, 8:18:02 AM	#79
SHUCKLE MAN Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,098	Starmie isn't the most surprising thing in the world. It's a bit higher than I expected, but it has been OU for like the past 10 years. __________________ Shedinja fainted!

Aug 9th, 2010, 12:28:18 PM	#80
Ice-eyes Simper Fi Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,658	Shaymin is a much better offensive pokemon because Seed Flare is so spammable and it's much harder to force out. Celebi does defensive (Recover, Fighting resist, T-Wave) and Scarf (Trick/U-Turn) better. __________________ 22:36 <MMF> cunt is my favorite

Aug 9th, 2010, 12:48:18 PM	#82
Ice-eyes Simper Fi Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,658	I think that, when raging about how the likes of Shaymin and Dragonite are low in usage, people are forgetting that Salamence wasn't banned for anything like the whole of the month. It's number 18! August stats should give us a more accurate picture of the metagame. Expect Scizor to drop lower (iirc it was down to 7 on Suspect). __________________ 22:36 <MMF> cunt is my favorite

Aug 9th, 2010, 12:54:25 PM	#83
Bribery Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 275 Toronto, Ontario	I'm not really surprised about Starmie's usage. It was always a major offensive threat to most teams. Besides, LO Starmie is the anti-metagame Pokemon. It can single-handedly break most F/W/G cores apart. __________________ Euphoria

Aug 9th, 2010, 12:41:54 PM	#81
SandslashPWNS Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 76	I honestly thought that Dragonite's usage would be a little bit higher than it is. With decent bulk and access to Extremespeed, Dragonite can effectively check the likes of Infernape, Starmie, Shaymin, Breloom, and Jolteon. Starmie's high usage was expected for me. I just wonder why it took this long for people to use it like this. LO Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Hydro Pump wreak havoc on offensive teams, while Rapid Spin destroys Stall. Even with Mence, people should have used Starmie as a scarfer for the DD set. Anyway, thanks, Doug. These stats will definitely be useful for me when I make my next RMT.

Aug 9th, 2010, 4:05:54 PM	#84
cosmicexplorer pewpewpew Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,555 Bethesda, MD	I just came back from vacation, so I couldn't thank you for these stats, Doug. Sorry, but thanks! I thought Suicune would be at least 17th, but I guess people like Swampert more. __________________ FATECRASHERS MADE MY AVATAR! Go look at more art! Currently out, college apps are poison. C&Cers, contact me if you need any help with anything important. Sorry!

Aug 9th, 2010, 5:59:22 PM	#85
Ice-eyes Simper Fi Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,658	Offensive Cune says 'bulky Starmie' better than Milotic imo. __________________ 22:36 <MMF> cunt is my favorite

Aug 9th, 2010, 10:58:31 PM	#86
Smith cringe Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,344 Denton, Texas, USA	Starmie \| Ability \| Illuminate \| 5.2 Lol. __________________ [20:44] <@DrFidget> Am I the only one who still uses the internet strictly for porn and videogames?

Aug 10th, 2010, 12:09:02 AM	#88
YaM Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 322	UU Top 10 July 2008/2009/2010 (and rankings in 2010) 2008 2009 2010 1. Steelix (42) Roserade (BL) Milotic 2. Claydol (31) Registeel Venusaur 3. Rotom (14) Mismagius Mismagius 4. Hitmontop Milotic Spiritomb 5. Clefable (11) Uxie Arcanine 6. Swellow (28) Yanmega (BL) Uxie 7. Ninetales (69) Blaziken (20) Registeel 8. Hitmonlee (21) Hitmontop Rhyperior 9. Toxicroak (23) Ambipom (13) Houndoom 10. Leafeon (43) Azumarill (18) Hitmontop Hitmontop heh. __________________ Uses themed teams Highest Gen 4 UU Ranking - 17th on Leaderboard

Aug 10th, 2010, 2:25:36 AM	#89
petrie911 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 858	Roserade isn't BL, it's OU. In fact, Roserade jumped up to OU before getting the chance to be nominated (it was probably next after Yanmega), so it'd actually fall right back to UU should it lose enough usage.

Aug 10th, 2010, 7:35:28 AM	#90
Shimrit As Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 270 Singapore	The increased utility of Toxic Spikes should mean more Roserade? __________________ ...

Aug 10th, 2010, 2:29:33 PM	#91
Ice-eyes Simper Fi Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,658	Yeah, with the Dragon/Steel era over, Toxic Spikes are now much better - there're a lot more bulky waters around, and poison also cripples stuff like Shaymin. __________________ 22:36 <MMF> cunt is my favorite

Aug 10th, 2010, 2:41:16 PM	#92
blasphemy1 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,642 In the Hall of the Goblin King	Roserade is also able to combat bulky waters along with Celebi / Shaymin, not to mention Charge Beam Rotom-A (who does pretty well with a Substitute up against the Grass/Fire/Water cores).

Aug 10th, 2010, 4:26:41 PM	#93
Ice-eyes Simper Fi Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,658	Choice Band Dragonite is really, really good at the moment actually. With the rise of teams like Lead/Fire/Water/Grass/Ghost/Dragon, many teams' bulkiest Steel is Heatran, which takes 48.3% - 57.3% from an Adamant CB Outrage (and can't do anything back). __________________ 22:36 <MMF> cunt is my favorite

Aug 10th, 2010, 7:30:53 PM	#94
SlottedPig Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 306 I THINK I have enough stalkers.	I played Suspect 2 months ago and the stats right now make me sad. Breloom at #1 lead ... there must be VERY few players D= __________________ Previously known as ThePowerWithin

Aug 11th, 2010, 5:34:45 AM	#97
Epic_Andy Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3 Hampshire, England	Thanks for the stats Doug :)

Aug 11th, 2010, 5:47:41 AM	#98
min min Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,017 MSPA'd.	Hmm. 5.2 out of 100 Shoddiers don't bother to set an ability or use a SKILL SWAP STARMIE. Oh, and Magnezone dropping like a rock? Damn Scizor drop in usage. __________________ avatar by yilx RMT: Team Trifecto (20:29:16) ±Porygon: Your rank in Wifi OU is 45/74104 [1531 points / 712 battles]!

Aug 11th, 2010, 9:42:39 AM	#99
Ice-eyes Simper Fi Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,658	It's quite funny when you get to set up on the second Sleep Powder from Roserade because you accidentally gave your Starmie Illuminate... But yeah, Illuminate is the default in the Team Builder which really kinda sucks. __________________ 22:36 <MMF> cunt is my favorite

Aug 12th, 2010, 11:08:48 AM	#100
NightShadow Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 246 Behind you	amazing changes this month. milotic is number 1 in UU. machamp climbs to no. 2 lead (beat aerodactyl D:). heracross is WAY too powerful for UU. slap a choice scarf on it, press an attack and win the game (sorta :P), once checks are eliminated.] heatran jumps to no. 1 (OWNED SCIZOR IN YO FACE!). dragonite has a HUGE jump. awesome stats in july :D