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Join Date: Jan 2010
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I made this thread since the last one (and I did search) apparently did not meet the standards of the mods. Alakazam deserves a thread to post in! ![]() Type: Psychic Base Stats: 55, 50, 45, 135, 85, 120 Abilities: Synchronize, Inner Focus DW ability: Magic Guard New Moves Italic, Noted Moves Bolded Moveset Code:
Lv1: Teleport Learnable Tms Code:
TM03 - Psycho Shock, TM04 - Calm Mind, TM06 - Toxic, TM10 - Hidden Power, TM11 - Sunny Day, TM12 - Taunt, TM15 - Hyper Beam, TM16 - Light Screen, TM17 - Protect, TM18 - Rain Dance, TM19 - Telekinesis, TM20 - Safeguard, TM21 - Frustration, TM27 - Return, TM29 - Psychic, TM30 - Shadow Ball, Code:
Encore Barrier Knock Off Fire Punch ThunderPunch Ice Punch Power Trick Guard Swap Skill Swap Guard Share Noted New Move Descriptions Psycho Shock: Psychic, Special, 80, 100, 10 Effect: Does physical damage Guard Share: Psychic, Other, 100, 10 Effect: You share your defensive stats with your opponent (add them up, divide by 2, that's what each pokemon gets) Example Movesets ![]() Life Orb Abuser Nature: Modest/Timid Evs: 252 sp attack, 252 Timid Ability: Magic Guard Item: Life Orb Moves: Psychic/Psycho shock, Hp Fire/Shadow ball, Focus Blast, Grass Knot/Calm Mind Notes: Pretty straight forward, you're either going all out on attacks or mixing in the calm mind. With Magic Guard you no longer have to worry about the damage from life orb killing you which is a huge bonus. However, Alakazam will always have to watch out for Scizor and any other physical priority/pursuit user as it still has a very weak defense and low hp. Subzam Nature: Modest/Timid Evs: 252 Sp attack, 252 Timid Ability: Magic Guard Item: Leftovers/Life Orb Moves: Psychic/Psycho shock, Substitute, Hp fire/Focus Blast, Recover/shadow ball Notes: Substitute gives Alakazam a bit more durability than it had before. The item choice is up to you though leftovers is probably more appreciated since Zam may not always have time to recover. If you feel like just wacking away though you could remove recover all together, give Subzam Focus Blast and a life orb, and just go all out. However, in this case it is probably a very good idea to pair it up with a wish passer to heal Zam up for when it gets low. Discuss Gen 5 alakazam! (this is not a thread to discuss tiers)
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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Alakazam is loving magic guard switching on with no entry hazards threatening it. I think a choiced set would help it since it can constantly switch in and out without any fear of hazards. Ttar might be a problem but ttar is always the problem.
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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This is a nice boost for Alakazam, although it still suffers from being priority and pursuit bait. I don't have the time to write up a whole set, but focus sash sets are now more viable, especially as you have recover. If they switch to scizor as you recover, they can't OHKO you while you can maybe KO back.
Recover + Guard Share is also pretty interesting. Blissey can't touch you, and I doubt Nattorei can after a guard share. Magic guard negates leech seed and toxic, which is great. Basically, you can force out some walls and tanks while stealing their defenses. If you have focus sash and recover back to it, even better. So maybe Guard Swap / Recover / HP fire / Psychic? Not great coverage, but what can you do. |
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Join Date: May 2010
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Focus sashes are one use only; you can't get them back.
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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Psycho Shock, Guard Share, and Magic Guard are appreciated new tools.
I don't see Scizor and Alakazam being given the same tier, so that is a non issue.
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Join Date: Aug 2010
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Alakazam with Magic Guard + Focus Sash is awesome.
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Join Date: May 2010
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Here is a Trick set.
Alakazam @ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf Synchronize / Magic Guard Timid / Modest 4 HP / 252 SPA / 252 SPE Trick Psychic Focus Blast Shadow Ball / Charge Beam / Energy Ball / Psycho Shock Edit: HP Fire is also a decent option in the last moveslot if you want to predict a Scizor switch-in. Bullet Punch or Pursuit would wreck any Alakazam not holding a Focus Sash. Note that I favor Synchronize as the ability, as Magic Guard isn't terribly useful on this set, as it is not meant to survive attacks. No one would try to defeat Alakazam through passive damage; they will just attack. Paralysis ruins its efforts, though.
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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This. nothing that counters the frail Alakazam is going to like you being guaranteed to survive one attack.
a 'luring set' of Psycho Shock / Focus Blast / HP Fire / Shadow Ball, Focus Sash? gets T-Tar/Scizor/etc in, but they're the ones that don't survive the encounter.
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Glad that Zam got somethin goin' for him in this generation. With Psycho Shock, it's definitely gonna be eating up counters like Blissey, and with Magic Guard... Well it's Magic Guard! Who wouldn't appreciate it? I'm thinking the SubEncore set of Zam would work pretty well with this...
Zammy@Leftovers Ability: Magic Guard Modest/Timid Evs: 40 HP/ 252 SpAtk/ 216 Spe ~Substitute ~Encore ~Psycho Shock ~Focus Blast Sub on a switch, Encore the counter's move. If it's a stat up, then you can go offensive, or switch to an appropriate counter. If they break the sub, switch to something that can resist the move. Simple, easy, strong. Sandstorm and SR/Spikes appreciated, especially since it doesn't hurt Zam now! Hazaaaa!
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I'm just going to copy-paste a Guard Share set I posted in the old thread:
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Alakazam @ Flame/Toxic Orb Ability: Magic Guard Nature: Timid EVs: 252 SAtk / 216 Spd / 40 HP - Substitute - Psycho Shock / Psychic - Focus Blast / Shadow Ball - Trick Quote:
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Join Date: Jun 2010
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I support the Focus Sash set as many Gen V threats to Alakazam can also be dealt with easily. Alakazam ties with Zoroark, and KOes with Focus Blast anyway (well, 70% of the time). Other threats that get lured and killed include the other nasty Dark-types such as Warubiaru and Sazandora. Both have Pursuit to make short work of Alakazam, but are also put to a dark, dark grave by Focus Blast. Lati@s can be a bummer too, so run Shadow Ball, but I doubt it'll do enough damage, what with their awesome special defence.
Team options therefore should logically include something that would greatly benefit having the aforementioned threats eliminated. Despite sharing common weaknesses, LO Gengar is a good partner as the aforementioned threats are able to revenge it. Espeon, Mismagius and possibly Shanderaa are also good choices for secondary sweepers. Basically, if it was weak to Scizor and ScarfTar, it should be used as a partner.
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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might even be able to get away with not using trick and psycho shock instead. It would give you more room for moves after all
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Very much liking this focus sash + magic guard thing. Pretty much guaranteed to take out one or two pokemons before going down if used right. His unique 120 speed will be very interesting to play with too. I think it'll be OU this time around given its monsterous special attack stat.
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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Ah poor Zammy..even with a few new spoons to beat people over the head with he still lacks a fork(Defense). On a side note I thought spoons would be more defensive than forks. Back to the zam, He could beat blissey down with psycho shock but..when are they in the same tier? =/ I wish zam had a way to squish scizor. Not that I don't love scizor lol...
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Join Date: Oct 2010
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Theoretically, Focus Sash + Magic Guard 'Zam can survive a Bullet Punch, and OHKO Scizor with HP Fire (ran the calcs a while back, but you can check).
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Counter isn't a Bad idea with Focus Sash... It's the safest option to KO Tyranitar without relying on Focus Blasts' 70%. Magic Guard negates weather and entry hazard damage.
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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Alakazam is looking good in gen 5.
Alakazam @ Life Orb Magic Guard Timid - 4 HP / 252 Spatk / 252 Spe Substitute / Psycho Shock / Focus Blast / (HP Fire, Signal Beam) Wow, just wow. Psycho Shock is a great way to beat the bane of Alakazam, Blissey and Chansey. Magic Guard is just the icing on the cake, no Life Orb recoil means Alakazam is going to be lasting a lot time. Sub is on the set to beat Sucker Punch. Trick sets might also work well. Guard Share seems like a waste of a turn. I would much rather get a free sub that slightly raise my defensive.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Alakazam @ Life Orb
Timid, Magic Guard 252 SpA, 252 Speed, 6 HP ~Protect ~HP Fire ~Psychic/Psycho Shock ~Focus Blast MysticGar wannabe. |
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Alakazam outspeeds ScarfTar.
So, Focus Blast murders it. Unless the murderer missed the right street... like, 30% of the time. Oh, i used the exact same set on gen 4, but with Sub over Protect. It really works wonders.
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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And Zam wouldn't die to rocks after switching in again, with its speed it could still be useful. Also you could give Alakazam some wish support, he has such low HP and lots of the wishers (Vaporeon, Blissey) have gigantic HP, he could get fully recovered. |
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Join Date: May 2010
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Alakazam is really going to like being able to have a Focus Sash. Maybe a set like:
Alakazam @ Focus Sash 4 HP / 252 Sp.Atk / 252 Spe Modest / Timid ~Psychic / Pyschoo Shock ~Focus Blast ~Hidden Power [Fire] ~Counter / Shadow Ball / -Filler-
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Counter and Magic Guard aren't even close to being legal. Counter is a third gen move tutor and Magic Guard is a fifth gen DW ability.
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Alakazam just upped the ante. I think he has a shot of catching up to his eternal rival (Gengar) in this game. Not better mind you, but pretty damn close. Magic guard is such an amazing ability (especially for an offensive minded pokemon) and as a bonus, he gets to use his STAB to fuck with Blissey.
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Best Alakazam moveset:
Alakazam (M) @ Focus Sash Trait: Magic Guard EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Focus Blast - Psychic - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power [Ice] Aside from Roobushin, Alakazam has earned my MVP slot on my team. This fucker is amazing as hell. The only thing that I can even hate about it is a faster Pursuit user (hint: Not many in this category) or Pursuit + Priority (and most Scizor will go straight for priority). If you feel ballsy enough, you can even try to stay into Scizor and just use Focus Blast. Since it's likely Choice Band you know what'll happen anyway. Bullet Punch means a free switch, Pursuit means you smash it twice with Focus Blast. It's 120 Speed and powerful 135 SpA is just icing on the cake. Scarf Tyranitar can't revenge kill this dude whatsoever and it smacks everything hard. Magic Guard Alakazam is fucking awesome. A true classic.
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