Gen 5 Article Claims/Suggestions

**Nexus** · Nov 9th, 2010, 9:48:46 PM

Unlike analyses, the articles will not necessarily be first come first served, especially for the most lengthy, complicated and important guides. Don't let this put you off from helping though, even if we think it best for someone else to run it no article is a one person job. There will be a lot of content checking to be done and discussion to be had, especially for the threat lists where almost all the work is done by the C&C community.

Mechanics articles:

Fifth Gen Changes

Ideally written by someone involved with 5th gen testing, or at least with the help of people who have been. A section for major changes which players will run into often in battle, then later sections with more detail. The removal of various 4th gen "glitches" should be noted. New items and abilities need not be covered by this (they will have their own pages once the site is updated with 5th gen), only changes to existing mechanics.

Triples / Triples / Rotation Mechanics

Collect up all the information we have about how the alternate formats function, try to get anything you are unsure about tested. Depending on how many differences there are from standard play and how much detail is given, this could conceivably be split into three.

Threat Lists

Threat lists will be run as community projects. Each Pokemon will revive a very brief description of it's abilities. Examples of entries for each threat list will be provided before the projects start. If you wish to be in charge of a threat list you will be responsible for organizing contributions to it and most importantly ensuring quality in all submissions by correcting or rejecting substandard ones. You should have significant knowledge about the metagame, be able to write well and organize a group, and be willing to dedicate some time to the project.

Currently required:

Ubers - firecape - Done / Uploaded
OU - Aerrow, AccidentalGreed
UU - elDino - Done / Uploaded
RU - Omicron
NU - Raseri
LC - elevator_music, Aerrow - Done / Uploaded

Speed Tiers

Speed Tiers are best run by a single individual with considerable metagame knowledge, though having several others checking their work is very important. Speed Tiers are much easier projects to run than Threat Lists. Speed tiers do not require much complex writing, just a straight list of what to include in this format:

Speed / Pokemon / Base Speed / Nature (+Spe, -Spe, or Neutral) / EV Investment / Boost

Currently required:

Ubers - Shrang - Done / Uploaded
OU - Telamonianajax - Done / Uploaded
UU
RU - Honko - Done / Uploaded
NU - erisia
LC - Zeph - Done / Uploaded

Multi Tier

Status - Arseus with help from mien - Done / Uploaded
BW Move Priorities - darkie - Done / Uploaded
ev distribution - jc104
speed creep - Jimera0

Uber Articles

Uber Offense - barry4ever / shrang
Uber Stall - trickroom / firecape

OU Articles

OU Sand - Harsha
OU Rain - Yee - Done / Uploaded
OU Sun - Benlisted - Done / Uploaded
BW OU Entry Hazard Guide - zarator - Done / Uploaded
Priorities Guide - zarator - Done / Uploaded
Volt-turn Offense Guide - harsha2014 - Done / Uploaded
Gravity - ginganinja - Done / Uploaded
BW OU Stall Guide - ThePillsburyDoughBoy
Guide to BW OU Offense - Davy Jones
OU Trick Room Guide -Sciztar

UU Articles

Guide to BW UU Offense - Psych071c

RU Articles

RU Trick Room Guide - Jellicent - Done / Uploaded
RU Rain Guide - dragonboy52
RU Sun Guide - BTzz - Done / Uploaded
RU Stall Guide - SilentVerse

NU Articles

NU Rain Guide - SuperJOCKE
NU Sun Guide - SuperJOCKE
Guide to NU Stall - DTC

Little Cup Articles

Little Cup Big World, Guide to Little Cup - Charmander - Done / Uploaded
Little Cup Legality Guide - Ray Jay - Done / Uploaded
Little Cup Guide (Update) - iss

Double Articles

BW Double Battles Guide - muffinhead / cassie - Done / Uploaded
VGC TrickRoom Guide - Biosci
Team Preview in VGC Guide - R Inanimate
VGC Sun - Lucifers Pride

Badal · Nov 12th, 2010, 11:12:50 AM

Could you add to the OP that I reserve the Gen 5 1v1 Guide?

Loves_Eo · Nov 12th, 2010, 12:32:24 PM

I believe 5th gen Walling Tiers and Attacking Tiers would be useful, as well as potentially double type attack combos.

If the defense tier is added, i'd like to reserve it. Thanks.

(examples of each can be found here for walling tiers/here for attack tiers/and here for double type attack combos

(note that for the defense tiers i'll also be adding in resistances and abilities if it's given to me)

firecape · Nov 12th, 2010, 2:27:52 PM

I would like the lead the Uber 5th gen threat list. When the time comes I'd be happy to lead the Uber guide as well, but we'll cross that bridge when the time comes.

***Jibaku**** · Nov 12th, 2010, 2:49:00 PM

Quote:

When the time comes I'd be happy to lead the Uber guide as well, but we'll cross that bridge when the time comes.

When that time comes, I'd also like to help write of the Uber metagame guide, just like in Gen IV :)

eric the espeon · Nov 12th, 2010, 3:51:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat badalcristiano

Could you add to the OP that I reserve the Gen 5 1v1 Guide?

Ok.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat nighthawk

I believe 5th gen Walling Tiers and Attacking Tiers would be useful, as well as potentially double type attack combos.

If the defense tier is added, i'd like to reserve it. Thanks.

(examples of each can be found here for walling tiers/here for attack tiers/and here for double type attack combos

(note that for the defense tiers i'll also be adding in resistances and abilities if it's given to me)

Sure, post when you have something.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat firecape

I would like the lead the Uber 5th gen threat list. When the time comes I'd be happy to lead the Uber guide as well, but we'll cross that bridge when the time comes.

Alright, hold off posting the OP for a bit, need to decide the exact format for threat list entries.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Jibaku

When that time comes, I'd also like to help write of the Uber metagame guide, just like in Gen IV :)

Cool, you ubers people discuss among yourselves who should do what and when the metagame is known well enough to start.

Venser · Nov 13th, 2010, 9:30:16 AM

I would like to know if it would be possible to lead the Little Cup 5th gen threat list.

Destiny Warrior · Nov 13th, 2010, 10:29:46 AM

Beaten by Venser, I would like to offer to co-lead with him on Little Cup 5th Gen threat list if such a position is viable.

I would also like to head LC 5th Gen article when you come to that.

EDIT: I can also lead Doubles and triples.

SOMALIA · Nov 13th, 2010, 12:39:20 PM

Can I please reserve and do a 5th Gen TM/HM locations article?

eric the espeon · Nov 13th, 2010, 2:04:31 PM

LC Threat list: Unsure about either of you, have you managed a large project before or written a somewhat complex guide? Threat lists are not minor endeavors for the leader, and require very high activity and content checking skill to do well without wasting a lot of community effort/time. Talk to me on IRC.

SOMALIA: I believe Macle will also be leading 5th gen ingame, I'll talk to him and see what the situation is.

mien · Nov 14th, 2010, 5:43:45 PM

I'll take the responsibility of updating the game mechanics articles to Generation V. The first article will be status in B/W written/updated by arseus(he agreed doing so by PM) with the list of game mechanic changes provided by myself.

eric the espeon · Nov 14th, 2010, 6:27:34 PM

Sounds great.

Calm Pokemaster · Dec 2nd, 2010, 11:02:37 AM

I would like to take part in the OU Gen 5 threat list and the LC Gen 5 threat list, when we come to that . Of course, I dont ant to lead any of these projects, seeing I dont have much time.

Note: I have contributed to PKGaming's trial Gen 5 OU threatlist. When the formal one is compiled in this sub-forum, I shall certainly take part in it.

Niched · Dec 2nd, 2010, 1:29:19 PM

I'd be willing to write the Rotation Battles guide.

**PK Gaming** · Dec 2nd, 2010, 2:06:00 PM

Oh nice! Can I do the gen 5 threat list? I already made a gen 5 OU threatlist which was (semi) successful.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81996

boyofrito · Dec 8th, 2010, 9:53:18 AM

What about articles on the types of Weather? An article on Rain, an article on Sun, an article on Sandstorm, and an article on hail? We had them in the 4th gen, couldn't someone rewrite them for 5th gen? And also someone should write one for sun, sine (I believe) that there is not an existing Sun article.

Chieliee · Dec 9th, 2010, 1:35:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat boyofrito

What about articles on the types of Weather? An article on Rain, an article on Sun, an article on Sandstorm, and an article on hail? We had them in the 4th gen, couldn't someone rewrite them for 5th gen? And also someone should write one for sun, sine (I believe) that there is not an existing Sun article.

Add Trick Room and Gravity(?) to the list

**locopoke** · Dec 9th, 2010, 1:45:33 PM

how about an article about stall/defensive play?

Alan · Dec 9th, 2010, 1:55:18 PM

i would be willing to offer my services for a weather article :3

**macle** · Dec 9th, 2010, 4:07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat PK Gaming

Oh nice! Can I do the gen 5 threat list? I already made a gen 5 OU threatlist which was (semi) successful.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81996

I'll talk to ete about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat boyofrito

What about articles on the types of Weather? An article on Rain, an article on Sun, an article on Sandstorm, and an article on hail? We had them in the 4th gen, couldn't someone rewrite them for 5th gen? And also someone should write one for sun, sine (I believe) that there is not an existing Sun article.

I'll add it to the list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat zee-brah

Add Trick Room and Gravity(?) to the list

ok.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat locopoke

how about an article about stall/defensive play?

that sounds like a good idea. Do you want to write it or are you just suggesting it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Alan

i would be willing to offer my services for a weather article :3

Which weather or all weathers?

**locopoke** · Dec 9th, 2010, 4:56:48 PM

i could help whoever's going to be writing it but it was mainly a suggestion

boyofrito · Dec 9th, 2010, 7:09:10 PM

I would too offer my services for a weather article, if you feel I am experienced enough to do so. I would like to help with the article on Sun.

**macle** · Dec 9th, 2010, 7:29:29 PM

You can write it.

sax king · Dec 9th, 2010, 7:31:36 PM

I know this wasn't on the list, but I'd love to write an article on Leads. I can also help with the Hail article, but I'd prefer the leads one.

boyofrito · Dec 9th, 2010, 9:22:15 PM

Thank you. I will get started on the Sun article.

Should it be for Wifi or Dream World?

Nov 9th, 2010, 9:48:46 PM	#1
Nexus Hate is an everlasting wellspring from which it is eternally sustained. Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,385 Mentor	Unlike analyses, the articles will not necessarily be first come first served, especially for the most lengthy, complicated and important guides. Don't let this put you off from helping though, even if we think it best for someone else to run it no article is a one person job. There will be a lot of content checking to be done and discussion to be had, especially for the threat lists where almost all the work is done by the C&C community. Mechanics articles: Fifth Gen Changes Ideally written by someone involved with 5th gen testing, or at least with the help of people who have been. A section for major changes which players will run into often in battle, then later sections with more detail. The removal of various 4th gen "glitches" should be noted. New items and abilities need not be covered by this (they will have their own pages once the site is updated with 5th gen), only changes to existing mechanics. Triples / Triples / Rotation Mechanics Collect up all the information we have about how the alternate formats function, try to get anything you are unsure about tested. Depending on how many differences there are from standard play and how much detail is given, this could conceivably be split into three. Threat Lists Threat lists will be run as community projects. Each Pokemon will revive a very brief description of it's abilities. Examples of entries for each threat list will be provided before the projects start. If you wish to be in charge of a threat list you will be responsible for organizing contributions to it and most importantly ensuring quality in all submissions by correcting or rejecting substandard ones. You should have significant knowledge about the metagame, be able to write well and organize a group, and be willing to dedicate some time to the project. Currently required: Ubers - firecape - Done / Uploaded OU - Aerrow, AccidentalGreed UU - elDino - Done / Uploaded RU - Omicron NU - Raseri LC - elevator_music, Aerrow - Done / Uploaded Speed Tiers Speed Tiers are best run by a single individual with considerable metagame knowledge, though having several others checking their work is very important. Speed Tiers are much easier projects to run than Threat Lists. Speed tiers do not require much complex writing, just a straight list of what to include in this format: Speed / Pokemon / Base Speed / Nature (+Spe, -Spe, or Neutral) / EV Investment / Boost Currently required: Ubers - Shrang - Done / Uploaded OU - Telamonianajax - Done / Uploaded UU RU - Honko - Done / Uploaded NU - erisia LC - Zeph - Done / Uploaded Multi Tier Status - Arseus with help from mien - Done / Uploaded BW Move Priorities - darkie - Done / Uploaded ev distribution - jc104 speed creep - Jimera0 Uber Articles Uber Offense - barry4ever / shrang Uber Stall - trickroom / firecape OU Articles OU Sand - Harsha OU Rain - Yee - Done / Uploaded OU Sun - Benlisted - Done / Uploaded BW OU Entry Hazard Guide - zarator - Done / Uploaded Priorities Guide - zarator - Done / Uploaded Volt-turn Offense Guide - harsha2014 - Done / Uploaded Gravity - ginganinja - Done / Uploaded BW OU Stall Guide - ThePillsburyDoughBoy Guide to BW OU Offense - Davy Jones OU Trick Room Guide -Sciztar UU Articles Guide to BW UU Offense - Psych071c RU Articles RU Trick Room Guide - Jellicent - Done / Uploaded RU Rain Guide - dragonboy52 RU Sun Guide - BTzz - Done / Uploaded RU Stall Guide - SilentVerse NU Articles NU Rain Guide - SuperJOCKE NU Sun Guide - SuperJOCKE Guide to NU Stall - DTC Little Cup Articles Little Cup Big World, Guide to Little Cup - Charmander - Done / Uploaded Little Cup Legality Guide - Ray Jay - Done / Uploaded Little Cup Guide (Update) - iss Double Articles BW Double Battles Guide - muffinhead / cassie - Done / Uploaded VGC TrickRoom Guide - Biosci Team Preview in VGC Guide - R Inanimate VGC Sun - Lucifers Pride __________________ Last edited by macle; Aug 14th, 2012 at 3:12:09 PM.

Nov 12th, 2010, 11:12:50 AM	#2
Badal Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,908	Could you add to the OP that I reserve the Gen 5 1v1 Guide? __________________ ^___^

Nov 12th, 2010, 2:27:52 PM	#4
firecape This is the end... Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,048 This storys old, but it goes on and on until we disappear	I would like the lead the Uber 5th gen threat list. When the time comes I'd be happy to lead the Uber guide as well, but we'll cross that bridge when the time comes. __________________ I DONT DESERVE YOU

Nov 13th, 2010, 10:29:46 AM	#8
Destiny Warrior also known as Darkwing_Duck Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,044 Location: Andromeda Galaxy	Beaten by Venser, I would like to offer to co-lead with him on Little Cup 5th Gen threat list if such a position is viable. I would also like to head LC 5th Gen article when you come to that. EDIT: I can also lead Doubles and triples. __________________ 17:47 Zarator cc for cap shit? 17:47 Zarator why? 17:48 Destiny_Warrior he contributed to the CAP community with his posts duh 17:48 Zarator oh wait 17:48 Objection maybe CAP's becoming more influential on smogon? 17:48 Zarator you don't mean currency counters right? CAP ASB and Battle Arcade Last edited by Destiny Warrior; Nov 13th, 2010 at 10:51:52 AM.

Nov 13th, 2010, 2:04:31 PM	#10
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,696	LC Threat list: Unsure about either of you, have you managed a large project before or written a somewhat complex guide? Threat lists are not minor endeavors for the leader, and require very high activity and content checking skill to do well without wasting a lot of community effort/time. Talk to me on IRC. SOMALIA: I believe Macle will also be leading 5th gen ingame, I'll talk to him and see what the situation is. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted.

Nov 12th, 2010, 12:32:24 PM	#3
Loves_Eo Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 48	I believe 5th gen Walling Tiers and Attacking Tiers would be useful, as well as potentially double type attack combos. If the defense tier is added, i'd like to reserve it. Thanks. (examples of each can be found here for walling tiers/here for attack tiers/and here for double type attack combos (note that for the defense tiers i'll also be adding in resistances and abilities if it's given to me)

Nov 13th, 2010, 9:30:16 AM	#7
Venser Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,606 #doubles if anywhere	I would like to know if it would be possible to lead the Little Cup 5th gen threat list.

Nov 13th, 2010, 12:39:20 PM	#9
SOMALIA The King. Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,233	Can I please reserve and do a 5th Gen TM/HM locations article?

Nov 14th, 2010, 5:43:45 PM	#11
mien Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 646 Belgium	I'll take the responsibility of updating the game mechanics articles to Generation V. The first article will be status in B/W written/updated by arseus(he agreed doing so by PM) with the list of game mechanic changes provided by myself.

Nov 14th, 2010, 6:27:34 PM	#12
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,696	Sounds great. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted.

Dec 2nd, 2010, 11:02:37 AM	#13
Calm Pokemaster Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,375 Chennai, India	I would like to take part in the OU Gen 5 threat list and the LC Gen 5 threat list, when we come to that . Of course, I dont ant to lead any of these projects, seeing I dont have much time. Note: I have contributed to PKGaming's trial Gen 5 OU threatlist. When the formal one is compiled in this sub-forum, I shall certainly take part in it. Last edited by Calm Pokemaster; Dec 8th, 2010 at 11:37:01 AM.

Dec 2nd, 2010, 1:29:19 PM	#14
Niched Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 169 Feeling Ballsy?	I'd be willing to write the Rotation Battles guide. __________________ Hell is an exclusive club. Don't let the riffraff in. Watch the Leaders of Yesterday teach the Children of Today how to run the Country of Tomorrow. Into the ground.

Dec 2nd, 2010, 2:06:00 PM	#15
PK Gaming Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,564 Sumuru city	Oh nice! Can I do the gen 5 threat list? I already made a gen 5 OU threatlist which was (semi) successful. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81996 __________________

Dec 8th, 2010, 9:53:18 AM	#16
boyofrito Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 95	What about articles on the types of Weather? An article on Rain, an article on Sun, an article on Sandstorm, and an article on hail? We had them in the 4th gen, couldn't someone rewrite them for 5th gen? And also someone should write one for sun, sine (I believe) that there is not an existing Sun article. __________________ ...

Dec 9th, 2010, 1:45:33 PM	#18
locopoke indulges in unsavory behavior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,746	how about an article about stall/defensive play? __________________

Dec 9th, 2010, 1:55:18 PM	#19
Alan Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,721 get the reptile to me	i would be willing to offer my services for a weather article :3 __________________ music youtube Lorem ipsum id est oculis

Dec 9th, 2010, 4:56:48 PM	#21
locopoke indulges in unsavory behavior Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,746	i could help whoever's going to be writing it but it was mainly a suggestion __________________

Dec 9th, 2010, 7:09:10 PM	#22
boyofrito Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 95	I would too offer my services for a weather article, if you feel I am experienced enough to do so. I would like to help with the article on Sun. __________________ ...

Dec 9th, 2010, 7:29:29 PM	#23
macle ribbit Moderator Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,740 Wisconsin Mentor	You can write it. __________________ Art for Articles Help Write In-game Articles

Dec 9th, 2010, 7:31:36 PM	#24
sax king Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 768 I'm not sick, but I'm not well	I know this wasn't on the list, but I'd love to write an article on Leads. I can also help with the Hail article, but I'd prefer the leads one. __________________ The 90's were awesome

Dec 9th, 2010, 9:22:15 PM	#25
boyofrito Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 95	Thank you. I will get started on the Sun article. Should it be for Wifi or Dream World? __________________ ... Last edited by boyofrito; Dec 9th, 2010 at 11:32:34 PM.