PO CaP Server working! - Page 2

***DougJustDoug***** · Feb 7th, 2011, 1:24:09 PM

This is FANTASTIC progress! Thanks for getting the ball rolling on a PO server, eric. If Rising Dusk is willing to host a server and do the other programming tasks to make a workable server -- then CAP may be back in business soon!

I have no problem whatsoever with handing off CAP server responsibilities to a new team that is ready and willing to get this stuff working. If the new server admins need any data from the existing CAP Shoddy server, just let me know.

As for general project leadership, I've been planning on having a changing of the guard there anyway -- we just haven't had a meaningful project to lead lately. The advent of a working simulator should provide the foundation for a renewed CAP project, and new leadership to move forward.

Long ago, we identified Deck Knight for a promotion to CAP moderator, so that will go through. Whoever is the primary server admin -- looks like Rising Dusk, and maybe Eric too (?) -- will also need some meaningful authority here on the forums to do that job effectively outside the server itself, where they will have supreme authority, of course. Server mods and all that will be completely up to the server admin, since they will own that whole thing, and I'm not going to try to tell them what to do on their own server.

I'm still going to be involved with CAP, but I don't want to have much direct leadership responsibility like I had in the past. The CAP project has a lot of history, rules and process now. We don't need a big "CAP mega-admin" to make every call. CAP mods need to run the show, and I'm sure they will have no problem taking the reins. I'll help settle disputes or whatever, if we have any political or organization struggles. But, I don't expect much of that. If the mods know they are in charge, and the server admin is part of the top leadership team -- then CAP should be able to get rolling just fine. I'll help with technical aspects of the CAP website, but I'm even trying to get some new SCMS features to help turn over maintenance of that too. Basically, I'll help where I am needed -- but I don't want the CAP project to be "mine".

I want other people to take this project and have fun with it. Deck Knight has done a wonderful job of keeping the lights on here in the CAP forum, and I'm sure he'll be a workhorse of leadership if the normal CAP project machine starts humming again. It looks like Eric and Rising Dusk are stepping up in a big way to support the technical needs of this project. Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing so! If you need ANYTHING from me to keep moving forward -- just give the word.

I want to see CAP get moving again, but I don't want to be only person supplying gas in the engine. This thread is a wonderful sign of progress. This should be lots of fun!

Aerodactyl Legend · Feb 7th, 2011, 3:02:04 PM

I think the To-Do list should also be updated in preparation for the CAP project to begin again. Some old tasks are still listed.

Paradox · Feb 7th, 2011, 3:45:23 PM

This is sweet! Very exciting

eric the espeon · Feb 7th, 2011, 5:11:15 PM

Update: Fidgit movepool in, ability issue explained, no longer a problem. I'm going with the number of pre-evos in the second post for now. Generation difficulties need some code changes, but coyo says it won't cause incompatibility with older versions and is ok with the change to generation handling being applied to the general release, and that if we get stuck we can ask him for details. Going to talk to RD when he gets on.

Glad you guys like it, especially Doug! I think the plan is for Dusk and myself to have server owners, along with you I would assume. As for forum powers, RD and DK can probably take care of most everything, though if another set of hands are needed.. maybe.

Adding the rest in one go from here. Quicker that way.

Edit: All but movepools in.

Edit2:

SgtWoodsy wanted to see some mini sprites. Here is the teambuilder working.

ungulateman · Feb 7th, 2011, 9:00:33 PM

Will there be an option to see how the Gen 4 CAPs work in a 5th Gen environment? They won't be balanced appropriately, but it would be a nice experiment. I know there was Policy Review talking about how they wouldn't work, but some of us play Pokemon for fun, after all. ;)

eric the espeon · Feb 7th, 2011, 9:18:17 PM

Yes, they will be available in the 5th gen, but banned from the main ladder.

Aerodactyl Legend · Feb 7th, 2011, 10:10:56 PM

That's acceptable actually, as long as we don't change them and they are not used competitively. I kinda missed using Fidgit for my entry hazard duties.

Umbreon Dan · Feb 8th, 2011, 2:15:30 AM

good job ete. i look forward to eventually being able to play on it.

Captain · Feb 8th, 2011, 3:44:16 AM

Woah, ete, I thought it would never happen, congrats.

I will probably miss Doug though.

Feb 7th, 2011, 1:24:09 PM	#26
*DougJustDoug* Knows the great enthusiasms Administrator** Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,901 Houston, TX	This is FANTASTIC progress! Thanks for getting the ball rolling on a PO server, eric. If Rising Dusk is willing to host a server and do the other programming tasks to make a workable server -- then CAP may be back in business soon! I have no problem whatsoever with handing off CAP server responsibilities to a new team that is ready and willing to get this stuff working. If the new server admins need any data from the existing CAP Shoddy server, just let me know. As for general project leadership, I've been planning on having a changing of the guard there anyway -- we just haven't had a meaningful project to lead lately. The advent of a working simulator should provide the foundation for a renewed CAP project, and new leadership to move forward. Long ago, we identified Deck Knight for a promotion to CAP moderator, so that will go through. Whoever is the primary server admin -- looks like Rising Dusk, and maybe Eric too (?) -- will also need some meaningful authority here on the forums to do that job effectively outside the server itself, where they will have supreme authority, of course. Server mods and all that will be completely up to the server admin, since they will own that whole thing, and I'm not going to try to tell them what to do on their own server. I'm still going to be involved with CAP, but I don't want to have much direct leadership responsibility like I had in the past. The CAP project has a lot of history, rules and process now. We don't need a big "CAP mega-admin" to make every call. CAP mods need to run the show, and I'm sure they will have no problem taking the reins. I'll help settle disputes or whatever, if we have any political or organization struggles. But, I don't expect much of that. If the mods know they are in charge, and the server admin is part of the top leadership team -- then CAP should be able to get rolling just fine. I'll help with technical aspects of the CAP website, but I'm even trying to get some new SCMS features to help turn over maintenance of that too. Basically, I'll help where I am needed -- but I don't want the CAP project to be "mine". I want other people to take this project and have fun with it. Deck Knight has done a wonderful job of keeping the lights on here in the CAP forum, and I'm sure he'll be a workhorse of leadership if the normal CAP project machine starts humming again. It looks like Eric and Rising Dusk are stepping up in a big way to support the technical needs of this project. Thank you, thank you, thank you for doing so! If you need ANYTHING from me to keep moving forward -- just give the word. I want to see CAP get moving again, but I don't want to be only person supplying gas in the engine. This thread is a wonderful sign of progress. This should be lots of fun! __________________ My Art Thread: ArtJustArt - The Art of DougJustDoug

Feb 7th, 2011, 5:11:15 PM	#29
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,695	Update: Fidgit movepool in, ability issue explained, no longer a problem. I'm going with the number of pre-evos in the second post for now. Generation difficulties need some code changes, but coyo says it won't cause incompatibility with older versions and is ok with the change to generation handling being applied to the general release, and that if we get stuck we can ask him for details. Going to talk to RD when he gets on. Glad you guys like it, especially Doug! I think the plan is for Dusk and myself to have server owners, along with you I would assume. As for forum powers, RD and DK can probably take care of most everything, though if another set of hands are needed.. maybe. Adding the rest in one go from here. Quicker that way. Edit: All but movepools in. Edit2: SgtWoodsy wanted to see some mini sprites. Here is the teambuilder working. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted. Last edited by eric the espeon; Feb 7th, 2011 at 7:01:25 PM.

Feb 7th, 2011, 9:00:33 PM	#30
ungulateman Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,119 Cambodia	Will there be an option to see how the Gen 4 CAPs work in a 5th Gen environment? They won't be balanced appropriately, but it would be a nice experiment. I know there was Policy Review talking about how they wouldn't work, but some of us play Pokemon for fun, after all. ;) __________________ What's the difference between mainstream religion and Scientology? A few thousand years.

Feb 7th, 2011, 9:18:17 PM	#31
eric the espeon maybe I just misunderstood Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,695	Yes, they will be available in the 5th gen, but banned from the main ladder. __________________ For people who like storing things: The Box Reading and LC? LCF, LC Guide, LC Analyses Good channels: #littlecup, #C&C, #1v1, others And for SCMS editors: SCMS group ete on IRC. Goodbye Smogon. Good luck, was fun while it lasted.

Feb 8th, 2011, 2:15:30 AM	#33
Umbreon Dan Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,186 kiss my ass, this is a holy site.	good job ete. i look forward to eventually being able to play on it. __________________ 9.9 dan likes to ramble <@Fatecrashers> im really gay <@Fatecrashers> and i might fart rainbows

Feb 7th, 2011, 3:02:04 PM	#27
Aerodactyl Legend Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 966 Is inside an enemy AC130 above.	I think the To-Do list should also be updated in preparation for the CAP project to begin again. Some old tasks are still listed.

Feb 7th, 2011, 3:45:23 PM	#28
Paradox Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 234	This is sweet! Very exciting

Feb 7th, 2011, 10:10:56 PM	#32
Aerodactyl Legend Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 966 Is inside an enemy AC130 above.	That's acceptable actually, as long as we don't change them and they are not used competitively. I kinda missed using Fidgit for my entry hazard duties.

Feb 8th, 2011, 3:44:16 AM	#34
Captain Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 268 Hyperbeem is my lover, but I have ADDICTIONS.	Woah, ete, I thought it would never happen, congrats. I will probably miss Doug though. __________________ underground mod/test server: http://captain.psim.us/ Previous owner of 5th gen Streetmons server. Previous owner of 4th gen modded server.