Pokémon Black/White in-game discussion

Green Mage · Mar 6th, 2011, 8:11:48 PM

Seeing as how people have begun posting their thoughts on the games in various places, I thought i'd go ahead and create a topic where we can discuss the game without possibly derailing existing threads.

I just LOVE how battles are so much quicker now. There is no more of this:

Infernape used Close Combat!
*pause*
*attack animation*
*pause*
*wait 5 minutes for Blissey's HP to deplete*
*pause*
It's super effective!
*pause*
The opponent's Blissey fainted!
*weather, leftovers, etc etc*

Also lillipup isn't doing bad at all.

Yuggles · Mar 6th, 2011, 8:26:56 PM

So which one has better exclusives, and is the city or forest better?

Daenym · Mar 6th, 2011, 8:51:52 PM

I'd say the City is slightly better. It gives you more chances to fight daily, and you can, in theory, get all of the Pokemon you face through the GTS. Plus you can buy stuff like Fire Stones and the like.

After that, the only key differences are the legendaries. I think I prefer Tornadus (Tornelos or w/e) over Thundrus, but Zekrom over Reshiram. So it's a toss up there.

My favorite new feature when I played through was definitely the Rotation Battles. It's a shame they're not really implemented much. But then the double battle wasn't really implemented much in 3rd gen either.

Eventually I'm prolly gonna do a Nuzlocke run on Black, I think. I've beaten them too many times already, so it'll make it more exciting.

SunshineCat · Mar 6th, 2011, 9:01:32 PM

I'm going with Black, because I prefer Reshiram over Zekrom (as far as I know, I seem to be the only one o_O) and Black City has better background music, and you can battle trainers for EXP. Since there is no trainer rebattle option in this game, training might be a bit harder without Black City...

I don't care about the non-legendary version exclusives. You can easily trade for them.

Green Mage · Mar 6th, 2011, 9:41:02 PM

Does anyone know if you can still use the GTS to evolve conkeldurr and stuff? I just caught a pretty good rockandroller.

Firestorm · Mar 6th, 2011, 10:17:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Yuggles

So which one has better exclusives, and is the city or forest better?

Buy what interests you more:

KokoaKiwi · Mar 6th, 2011, 10:22:05 PM

Lillygant and Whimsicott arent too much of version exclusives, though, since you can obtain them from an in-game trade and proceed to mass breed. :3!

breh · Mar 6th, 2011, 10:28:40 PM

Has anybody noticed that the text is actually... somewhat comical this time around?

"This is bad!
Badbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbad!
Bad for Team Plasma!
Or Plasbad, for short!"

The last line was the best part, lol

Anyway, to stay on topic, White. It is far nicer in terms of what you can capture. However, if going for VGC, Tornadus may be a better choice since you can only get it in Black.

Phadunk · Mar 6th, 2011, 10:32:42 PM

i feel like the quality of pokemon towards the end of the game in this generation.. is far superior to the ones in another other.. which is great and bad at the same time.. it's like i just have to manage my way throughout until mid-way, then i can start building my real team to finish the game, and start thinking competitively. game freak spoiled us this generation.. and i love it.

i have white, and im glad i did.. but black city looks beastly.

KokoaKiwi · Mar 6th, 2011, 10:34:22 PM

In the japanese version, going in the Ferris Wheel with a hiker resulted in a dialogue with a lot of sexual innuendo (ej, "Boy it is sure wet, hot, and sweaty up here...you feel me boy?"). There's also a hint in Castelia City about an orgy party going on ("Eek! the man over the elevator touched me! Is that the kind of party they're having up there?")
What happened to these dialogues? I can confirm they do in fact exist in the japanese version.

B-Lulz · Mar 6th, 2011, 10:37:20 PM

god damn i love this game, honestly thinking about buying white after completing the ingame on black because it was that good!

Shinryu · Mar 6th, 2011, 10:41:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat KokoaKiwi

Lillygant and Whimsicott arent too much of version exclusives, though, since you can obtain them from an in-game trade and proceed to mass breed. :3!

Fuuuuu...well hell if I knew that beforehand, I would have grabbed White over Black, as Whimsicott was one of the 2 main reasons I went with Black (other was the city, I thought it sounded better than a wimpy forest). Otherwise, I like Zekrom a lot more than Reshiram, as well as the rest of the White exclusives over Black. Crap...

Otherwise, my favorite addition so far is that you can re-use TMs indefinitely. I missed that somewhere from all the info on Serebii, it is pretty nice to not have to save every "good" TM instead of wasting them on story-mode Pokemon, offers more flexibility while progressing :D

Phadunk · Mar 6th, 2011, 10:44:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Shinryu

Fuuuuu...well hell if I knew that beforehand, I would have grabbed White over Black, as Whimsicott was one of the 2 main reasons I went with Black (other was the city, I thought it sounded better than a wimpy forest). Otherwise, I like Zekrom a lot more than Reshiram, as well as the rest of the White exclusives over Black. Crap...

Otherwise, my favorite addition so far is that you can re-use TMs indefinitely. I missed that somewhere from all the info on Serebii, it is pretty nice to not have to save every "good" TM instead of wasting them on story-mode Pokemon, offers more flexibility while progressing :D

+100000

Phantasia · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:05:24 PM

In White I like the Gym Leader, the eagle Pokemon, and Butterfree. In Black I like Hunchkrow, Breelom, and Black City.

I still don't know which one to get, both sound so sweet...

Yoko Yuri · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:17:27 PM

battle animations are soooo sick, but move rather fast. is white a white cartridge? (I got black)

breh · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:21:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Yoko Yuri

battle animations are soooo sick, but move rather fast. is white a white cartridge? (I got black)

No.

I think it has to do with the material they use so that the cartridge can transmit ir.

Phadunk · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:26:41 PM

actually..sometimes the battle animations actually slow down and lag a little.. it's like they're making so much happen all at once. hope the game doesnt crash later on

Jaroda · Mar 6th, 2011, 11:28:53 PM

I'll be getting Black in a few weeks when I return to America so I'll have both games eventually. Yay self trading!

Funen1 · Mar 7th, 2011, 12:15:10 AM

I'm having so much fun with my White version. Much faster battling, kickass music, and awesome visuals (much more refined than DPPt if you ask me) are keeping me hooked, even after only one day. And because playing "set" style wasn't enough before, getting absolutely no trainer info from online is making the playing experience more interesting for me.

thewetmop · Mar 7th, 2011, 12:20:24 AM

love the game so far. I'm constantly mesmerized by the fact that the pokemon actually move around, haha.

**Mario With Lasers** · Mar 7th, 2011, 12:51:14 AM

I'm about to face the first Gym Leader and I have a feeling I'm going to like the games much more now; I didn't like the region a single bit when playing JP Black and I guess I still won't, but now I'll have ~character development~ to follow and ~jokes~ to laugh at, so maybe they'll make up for the former and let me enjoy the game a bit more???

ps Gothitelle > Reuniclus

Sprocket · Mar 7th, 2011, 12:55:02 AM

If only there were as many move tutor moves as their were in HeartGold and SoulSilver. Going to be downright annoying to have to go back to HGSS just for specific movesets.

Ah well, need Gen3 and Gen4 games to catch them all anyway. A good chunk of Pokemon do not appear in either game (unless you count the Dreamworld).

evolutia · Mar 7th, 2011, 1:38:37 AM

I'm really enjoying the game thus far, however, I don't know if it's due to my playstyle but it feels like my pokemon are extremely "frail".

Sigilyph is a real bitch ;_;

Phadunk · Mar 7th, 2011, 1:38:56 AM

yeah, regret selling my other ds..

well. facing the 3rd gym.. and getting raped like no other. so far twice in a row.

roggenrola, dewott, and sandile... eh..

tennisace · Mar 7th, 2011, 2:29:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Daenym

Eventually I'm prolly gonna do a Nuzlocke run on Black, I think. I've beaten them too many times already, so it'll make it more exciting.

I'm not nuzlocking but god damn that seems like easy mode because before every "long" area there's a nurse/doctor that will heal your pokemon after you beat them.

Mar 6th, 2011, 8:11:48 PM	#1
Green Mage Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 567	Pokémon Black/White in-game discussion Seeing as how people have begun posting their thoughts on the games in various places, I thought i'd go ahead and create a topic where we can discuss the game without possibly derailing existing threads. I just LOVE how battles are so much quicker now. There is no more of this: Infernape used Close Combat! pause attack animation pause wait 5 minutes for Blissey's HP to deplete pause It's super effective! pause The opponent's Blissey fainted! weather, leftovers, etc etc Also lillipup isn't doing bad at all. __________________ This is bad! Badbadbadbad! Bad for team plasma...or plasbad for short!

Mar 6th, 2011, 9:01:32 PM	#4
SunshineCat Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,235 New Zealand, GMT+12/13	I'm going with Black, because I prefer Reshiram over Zekrom (as far as I know, I seem to be the only one o_O) and Black City has better background music, and you can battle trainers for EXP. Since there is no trainer rebattle option in this game, training might be a bit harder without Black City... I don't care about the non-legendary version exclusives. You can easily trade for them. __________________ On hiatus because of exams. Reply to CMTs in Trade Thread Platinum FC: 5243-8219-5239 HeartGold FC: 1935-2907-9635 Black FC: 1291-8550-5908

Mar 6th, 2011, 9:41:02 PM	#5
Green Mage Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 567	Does anyone know if you can still use the GTS to evolve conkeldurr and stuff? I just caught a pretty good rockandroller. __________________ This is bad! Badbadbadbad! Bad for team plasma...or plasbad for short!

Mar 6th, 2011, 10:28:40 PM	#8
breh Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,958	Has anybody noticed that the text is actually... somewhat comical this time around? "This is bad! Badbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbad! Bad for Team Plasma! Or Plasbad, for short!" The last line was the best part, lol Anyway, to stay on topic, White. It is far nicer in terms of what you can capture. However, if going for VGC, Tornadus may be a better choice since you can only get it in Black. __________________ VGC Regionals: VGC11 Top 16, VGC12 12th Place

Mar 6th, 2011, 11:17:27 PM	#15
Yoko Yuri Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 25 Paradise Lost	battle animations are soooo sick, but move rather fast. is white a white cartridge? (I got black) __________________ How would you move Mt. Fuji?

Mar 6th, 2011, 8:26:56 PM	#2
Yuggles hey that second guy isn't too bad Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 230	So which one has better exclusives, and is the city or forest better?

Mar 6th, 2011, 8:51:52 PM	#3
Daenym Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 555	I'd say the City is slightly better. It gives you more chances to fight daily, and you can, in theory, get all of the Pokemon you face through the GTS. Plus you can buy stuff like Fire Stones and the like. After that, the only key differences are the legendaries. I think I prefer Tornadus (Tornelos or w/e) over Thundrus, but Zekrom over Reshiram. So it's a toss up there. My favorite new feature when I played through was definitely the Rotation Battles. It's a shame they're not really implemented much. But then the double battle wasn't really implemented much in 3rd gen either. Eventually I'm prolly gonna do a Nuzlocke run on Black, I think. I've beaten them too many times already, so it'll make it more exciting.

Mar 6th, 2011, 10:22:05 PM	#7
KokoaKiwi Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 751 Castelia.	Lillygant and Whimsicott arent too much of version exclusives, though, since you can obtain them from an in-game trade and proceed to mass breed. :3!

Mar 6th, 2011, 10:32:42 PM	#9
Phadunk Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,773	i feel like the quality of pokemon towards the end of the game in this generation.. is far superior to the ones in another other.. which is great and bad at the same time.. it's like i just have to manage my way throughout until mid-way, then i can start building my real team to finish the game, and start thinking competitively. game freak spoiled us this generation.. and i love it. i have white, and im glad i did.. but black city looks beastly.

Mar 6th, 2011, 10:34:22 PM	#10
KokoaKiwi Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 751 Castelia.	In the japanese version, going in the Ferris Wheel with a hiker resulted in a dialogue with a lot of sexual innuendo (ej, "Boy it is sure wet, hot, and sweaty up here...you feel me boy?"). There's also a hint in Castelia City about an orgy party going on ("Eek! the man over the elevator touched me! Is that the kind of party they're having up there?") What happened to these dialogues? I can confirm they do in fact exist in the japanese version.

Mar 6th, 2011, 11:26:41 PM	#17
Phadunk Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,773	actually..sometimes the battle animations actually slow down and lag a little.. it's like they're making so much happen all at once. hope the game doesnt crash later on

Mar 6th, 2011, 11:28:53 PM	#18
Jaroda Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 763 Otsu, Japan	I'll be getting Black in a few weeks when I return to America so I'll have both games eventually. Yay self trading!

Mar 7th, 2011, 12:15:10 AM	#19
Funen1 Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 11 Bloomington, IN	I'm having so much fun with my White version. Much faster battling, kickass music, and awesome visuals (much more refined than DPPt if you ask me) are keeping me hooked, even after only one day. And because playing "set" style wasn't enough before, getting absolutely no trainer info from online is making the playing experience more interesting for me.

Mar 7th, 2011, 12:55:02 AM	#22
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,494 Phoenix, AZ	If only there were as many move tutor moves as their were in HeartGold and SoulSilver. Going to be downright annoying to have to go back to HGSS just for specific movesets. Ah well, need Gen3 and Gen4 games to catch them all anyway. A good chunk of Pokemon do not appear in either game (unless you count the Dreamworld). __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Mar 7th, 2011, 1:38:37 AM	#23
evolutia Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 608	I'm really enjoying the game thus far, however, I don't know if it's due to my playstyle but it feels like my pokemon are extremely "frail". Sigilyph is a real bitch ;_;

Mar 7th, 2011, 1:38:56 AM	#24
Phadunk Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,773	yeah, regret selling my other ds.. well. facing the 3rd gym.. and getting raped like no other. so far twice in a row. roggenrola, dewott, and sandile... eh..