Pokémon Black/White in-game discussion - Page 14

Lork · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:12:57 PM

i like him but i think i'm gonna switch out my simipour for a seismitoad cos he's hella cool. what do people make of him?

Chieliee · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:14:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat KokoaKiwi

Then check the In-Game Tiers thread. A lot of us are REALLY pleased with Serperior.
Who the fuck uses is like a staller, anyway? You've access to Growth and Coil, as well as Giga Drain, Return, Leaf Blade, and Aerial Ace.

Edit: Megaman X you're horribly underleveled.

I did..... =P

EDIT: He's not that underleveled. I think my pokes were about level 43 when entering gym 8. He's underlevelled, but not horribly.

ryuuzaki52 · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:14:27 PM

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i like him but i think i'm gonna switch out my simipour for a seismitoad cos he's hella cool. what do people make of him?

Oh my God, I freaking love him! :D (Well...His Prevo, Palpitoad...But I'm like half a level away from evolving) No damage from electric, like Quagsire, plus Scald meaning it can give out burns. It can even use Bulldozer, which isn't half bad as a ground move! :D (PLUS AQUA RING!)

MMX · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:17:30 PM

I know, its tough leveling everybody equally. That's why they're so low.

KokoaKiwi · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:18:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Chieliee

I did..... =P

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Why would you do that? Unless you plan to tank with Coil + Leech Seed, I don't even

edit: well, sorry for that. I'm usually around level ~48 at that point, but that's just me. Subjectivity ftw.

Chieliee · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:20:17 PM

Has anyone any good experience with Ferroseed and Klink evolution lines?

KokoaKiwi · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:22:10 PM

The other thread has some decent output regarding Ferroseed. Some people enjoyed quite a lot using it, but I've never tried it before.

alexix · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:22:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat The King of Harts

I just beat the game, and I all I gotta say is: Fuck that Hydreigon. Surf/Focus Blast/Dragon Pulse just terrorized my team, and I had to use 4 max revives trying to work around it.

N was so underwhelming this guy really took me by surprise. My Seismitoad barely survived Dragon Pulse so 10 Hyper Potions later I could safely send my Reshiram in to finish it off. It was pretty simple after that but all my Pokémon were 5/10 levels lower.

As for Serperior, I never evolved my Snivy and I thought it was fine. Coil / Leech Seed / More Coiling / Leaf Blade works great as long as you're against a physical attacker. I see why people would hate that, though.

Also love the Rocky Helmet, I put it on my Scolipede. Iron Defense + Poison Point + Rocky Helmet + Venoshock doing twice the damage to Poisoned opponents = you don't fucking hit my Scolipede and live to tell about it.

Chieliee · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:24:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat KokoaKiwi

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Why would you do that? Unless you plan to tank with Coil + Leech Seed, I don't even

edit: well, sorry for that. I'm usually around level ~48 at that point, but that's just me. Subjectivity ftw.

Honestly, I have no idea why I did that. But it turned out pretty well. I think having one staller/poke that can take hits is pretty useful to have.

Gneiss is nice · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:27:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Chieliee

Has anyone any good experience with Ferroseed and Klink evolution lines?

I don't have the game yet, but I definitely plan on getting a Klink and playing with him when I get it. Such a cool looking pokemon. Too bad Steel is such a weak attacking type though.

Chieliee · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:28:03 PM

I'm thinking of doing a playthrough with like, 15 pokes in total, changing after every gym or so. Grinding takes less time with 2 EXP Shares, Lucky Egg, new EXP formula and stuff, but I don't know if I'll have the patience for it. has anyone tried a run like this yet?

Chieliee · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:33:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Gneiss is nice

I don't have the game yet, but I definitely plan on getting a Klink and playing with him when I get it. Such a cool looking pokemon. Too bad Steel is such a weak attacking type though.

Doesn't matter after a Gear Change or two :D

**Mario With Lasers** · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:41:23 PM

Klinklang only learns Shift Gear at lv54 so you shouldn't count on it. Now, if we're talking about Gear Grind (50 BP, two hits, 85 Acc, so it's a Meteor Mash with no Attack increase), then yeah, it's awesome.

Sprocket · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:42:50 PM

It's just too bad Klinklang has such a terrible move pool. It had such great potential.

Chieliee · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:50:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Mario With Lasers

Klinklang only learns Shift Gear at lv54 so you shouldn't count on it. Now, if we're talking about Gear Grind (50 BP, two hits, 85 Acc, so it's a Meteor Mash with no Attack increase), then yeah, it's awesome.

awww.... Didn't know he learned Shift Gear(wow strange name) that late...... But as you stated, Gear Grind is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Fat Sprocket

It's just too bad Klinklang has such a terrible move pool. It had such great potential.

True. Although in the beginning, a Gear Grind/Charge Beam/Mirror Shot/Autotomize set will work. Might also give it the Return TM

ryuuzaki52 · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:52:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Chieliee

awww.... Didn't know he learned Shift Gear(wow strange name) that late...... But as you stated, Gear Grind is awesome.

Thought it sounded pretty normal >_> Like shifting the gear of your car to raise the speed...

JolteonFTW · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:53:07 PM

Couple of initial impressions, just before 2nd Gym.

This game hates me for natures. Panpour got -SpA and first Drilbur was -Att. Had to catch two more before I felt it was okish (see below)

Snivy: I love Snivy, he's boss as hell, but playing as him is making me see where the other starters are MUCH better. He's still awesome, and I'm getting good use out of Growth and Leaf Tornado. He just won't die to neutral stuff.

Blitzle: Holy crap this thing's awesome, although I'm probably just baised. Nice to see a decent early game electric type for the first time since Gen II. I'll probably drop him later because of redundant coverage, but so far, having success with the glass cannon zebra.

Panpour: A nessasary evil at this point. Even then he's not helping much right now. I plan on dropping him QUICK later for Ducklett.

Drilbur: Overhyped at the moment. I'm carrying him right now. Mudshot/Fury Swipes ain't cuttin' it atm. Potential later, but I can't recommend him for the early game at all.
/2 cents

Shinryu · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:56:32 PM

I really want to grab a polar bear cub from twist mountain to round out my team (because come on, it's a freaking polar bear), but my team is severely lacking in anything with special attacks (ie, none at all unless you count the random Scald my Samurott has). So along those lines, I was thinking of ditching Stoutland for the electric spider (joltik), as Stoutland just really doesn't offer anything; mine uses Strength and Crunch and nothing else really, he doesn't learn anything that good in the ensuing levels and I'm not wasting a heart scale for him to have a fang attack.

Also trying to resist temptation to grab a Meinfoo to replace Sawk, no reason other than I like Meinshao's design more than Sawk, so eh. Sawk so far is pretty one dimensional as well with the fighting attacks, though hopefully the better TMs like EQ will start coming up soon. Also resisting on eventually picking up a Denio for ingame, simply because they evolve way too dang late to be of any use.

Chieliee · Mar 8th, 2011, 6:58:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat ryuuzaki52

Thought it sounded pretty normal >_> Like shifting the gear of your car to raise the speed...

I'm just so used to Gear Change..... Played on the Street Pokemon server too much, with all those Gear Change Machamp running around.

Chieliee · Mar 8th, 2011, 7:01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Shinryu

I really want to grab a polar bear cub from twist mountain to round out my team (because come on, it's a freaking polar bear), but my team is severely lacking in anything with special attacks (ie, none at all unless you count the random Scald my Samurott has). So along those lines, I was thinking of ditching Stoutland for the electric spider (joltik), as Stoutland just really doesn't offer anything; mine uses Strength and Crunch and nothing else really, he doesn't learn anything that good in the ensuing levels and I'm not wasting a heart scale for him to have a fang attack.

Also trying to resist temptation to grab a Meinfoo to replace Sawk, no reason other than I like Meinshao's design more than Sawk, so eh. Sawk so far is pretty one dimensional as well with the fighting attacks, though hopefully the better TMs like EQ will start coming up soon. Also resisting on eventually picking up a Denio for ingame, simply because they evolve way too dang late to be of any use.

EQ TM is post-E4

EDIT: This is seriously my 8th post ON THIS PAGE. I think I'm addicted to replying to questions..... :D

**voodoo pimp** · Mar 8th, 2011, 7:02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat KokoaKiwi

Edit: Megaman X you're horribly underleveled.

Not too terribly low. I went into the E4 with no Pokémon above 50 and only two above 45, and did fine.

Jonathan · Mar 8th, 2011, 7:06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Jonathan

Holy shit I love this game! My Oshawott just got 37000 Exp. taking down ONE Pokemon (a level 60 something Arcanine with my Lvl. 6 Oshawott and Lvl. 81 Hydreigon)! Oshawott got 37,000 Exp. and Hydreigon got 4000 something.

It went from lvl. 6 to lvl. 35!!!!!!!!

Reposting because it ended up at the bottom of the page and I don't think it got the attention it deserves.

By the way, anyone who has two copies of the game and two DSes, or a friend irl with the game, needs to STOP EVERYTHING THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW AND COMPLETE THE ENTRALINK MISSIONS.

Seriously, the Pass Power feature doesn't receive nearly as much recognition as it deserves in this game. You can easily spend an hour and complete all the Entralink missions if you have access to a friend/a second DS. You should be able to get about 150 Pass Orbs in that amount of time. By registering the +3 Exp. Boost Pass Power to your C-Gear, for the cost of 4 Pass Orbs you get three minutes of double experience gain! And once you reach Nimbasa city and other people can start giving you support powers from missions, you can be getting DOUBLE EXPERIENCE FOR 30 MINUTE PERIODS!! And as soon as those 30 minutes are up, just have your friend/other DS re-do the support mission (it takes like 30 seconds) and you can get another 30 minutes, and so on.

Effectively, from Nimbasa city onwards, you can go through the whole game earning double experience points, and all you have to do a support mission every half hour. That's fucking insane.

Until you get to Nimbasa city you'll have to rely on the Pass Orb/Pass Power system, which only lasts for 3 minute intervals. It's still pretty great, but I'm really looking forward to the point where I can play for 30 minute intervals without having to do Entralink stuff.

If you haven't looked into any of the Entralink stuff this probably sounds confusing as hell, but please ask me anything and I'll try to clarify it, it's totally worth it!

I've just finished the second gym (I didn't even battle any trainers in the area west of Nacrene city, but before the actual Pinwheel forest) and my party consists of:

Sinvy (Lv. 20)
Pignite (Lv. 23)
Oshawott (Lv. 22)

I used multiple save-states to get all three starters with my OT, so none of them are even gaining boosted Exp.

And this is with absolutely no grinding.

If you go through the game without exploring Pass Powers (assuming of course that you can) you have no idea what you're missing out on.

Chieliee · Mar 8th, 2011, 7:20:33 PM

do it this way, and you'll get even more.(no EV's but who cares)(I know all of you care about EV's)

Chieliee · Mar 8th, 2011, 7:22:34 PM

Quick question. Are you overlevelled when you have 3 level 28 pokes when entering Nimbasa City?

EDIT: My 10th post on this page. WTF is happening to me

EDIT2: Gonna go sleep now. I'll be back in ~ 9 hours.

JolteonFTW · Mar 8th, 2011, 7:26:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Chieliee

EDIT: My 10th post on this page. WTF is happening to me

It's the real life Pokèrus. Instead of boosted EVs, you get a sore neck and astigmatism.

Mar 8th, 2011, 6:17:30 PM	#329
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Mar 8th, 2011, 6:20:17 PM	#331
Chieliee Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,461	Has anyone any good experience with Ferroseed and Klink evolution lines? __________________ nyuu~ This is the world we live in And these are the hands we're given Use them and lets start trying To make it a place worth living in.

Mar 8th, 2011, 6:28:03 PM	#336
Chieliee Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,461	I'm thinking of doing a playthrough with like, 15 pokes in total, changing after every gym or so. Grinding takes less time with 2 EXP Shares, Lucky Egg, new EXP formula and stuff, but I don't know if I'll have the patience for it. has anyone tried a run like this yet? __________________ nyuu~ This is the world we live in And these are the hands we're given Use them and lets start trying To make it a place worth living in.

Mar 8th, 2011, 6:42:50 PM	#339
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Mar 8th, 2011, 6:56:32 PM	#343
Shinryu Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,439 AZ, land of endless heat...	I really want to grab a polar bear cub from twist mountain to round out my team (because come on, it's a freaking polar bear), but my team is severely lacking in anything with special attacks (ie, none at all unless you count the random Scald my Samurott has). So along those lines, I was thinking of ditching Stoutland for the electric spider (joltik), as Stoutland just really doesn't offer anything; mine uses Strength and Crunch and nothing else really, he doesn't learn anything that good in the ensuing levels and I'm not wasting a heart scale for him to have a fang attack. Also trying to resist temptation to grab a Meinfoo to replace Sawk, no reason other than I like Meinshao's design more than Sawk, so eh. Sawk so far is pretty one dimensional as well with the fighting attacks, though hopefully the better TMs like EQ will start coming up soon. Also resisting on eventually picking up a Denio for ingame, simply because they evolve way too dang late to be of any use. __________________ VGC 2009: Blame the stupid lotto >.> VGC 2010: Regionals： 3rd Phoenix: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72274 VGC 2011: Did not attend, protest against moving Phoenix off Regionals list VGC 2012: TBD

Mar 8th, 2011, 6:12:57 PM	#326
Lork Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 226	i like him but i think i'm gonna switch out my simipour for a seismitoad cos he's hella cool. what do people make of him?

Mar 8th, 2011, 6:22:10 PM	#332
KokoaKiwi Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 751 Castelia.	The other thread has some decent output regarding Ferroseed. Some people enjoyed quite a lot using it, but I've never tried it before.

Mar 8th, 2011, 6:53:07 PM	#342
JolteonFTW Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 22 Maryland	Couple of initial impressions, just before 2nd Gym. This game hates me for natures. Panpour got -SpA and first Drilbur was -Att. Had to catch two more before I felt it was okish (see below) Snivy: I love Snivy, he's boss as hell, but playing as him is making me see where the other starters are MUCH better. He's still awesome, and I'm getting good use out of Growth and Leaf Tornado. He just won't die to neutral stuff. Blitzle: Holy crap this thing's awesome, although I'm probably just baised. Nice to see a decent early game electric type for the first time since Gen II. I'll probably drop him later because of redundant coverage, but so far, having success with the glass cannon zebra. Panpour: A nessasary evil at this point. Even then he's not helping much right now. I plan on dropping him QUICK later for Ducklett. Drilbur: Overhyped at the moment. I'm carrying him right now. Mudshot/Fury Swipes ain't cuttin' it atm. Potential later, but I can't recommend him for the early game at all. /2 cents

Mar 8th, 2011, 7:20:33 PM	#348
Chieliee Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,461	do it this way, and you'll get even more.(no EV's but who cares)(I know all of you care about EV's) __________________ nyuu~ This is the world we live in And these are the hands we're given Use them and lets start trying To make it a place worth living in.

Mar 8th, 2011, 7:22:34 PM	#349
Chieliee Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,461	Quick question. Are you overlevelled when you have 3 level 28 pokes when entering Nimbasa City? EDIT: My 10th post on this page. WTF is happening to me EDIT2: Gonna go sleep now. I'll be back in ~ 9 hours. __________________ nyuu~ This is the world we live in And these are the hands we're given Use them and lets start trying To make it a place worth living in.