EV Training Spots in Black/White - Page 2

AriadosPerson · Mar 12th, 2011, 8:11:22 PM

Victory Road with Lv. 40/42 dead Pokemon at party's top and Repels gives you 66% Durants, at 2 Def. EVs apiece.

Elite_Battle_Master · Mar 12th, 2011, 10:21:10 PM

Speaking of EV's... does anyone know where you obtain the Effort Ribbon in BW?

Alex Practice · Mar 12th, 2011, 10:23:57 PM

You don't get effort ribbons anymore, but there's a woman in Opelucid that tells you when your Pokemon has maxed EVs.

Elite_Battle_Master · Mar 12th, 2011, 10:27:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Alex Practice

You don't get effort ribbons anymore, but there's a woman in Opelucid that tells you when your Pokemon has maxed EVs.

Oh alright then. Do you know which house it is? I'm currently EV training my Latios right now in the Celestial Tower.

Also, found it interesting that I was EV training my Latios and after the 15th Litwick I fainted, it grew to level 36. Normally when EV training and defeating that many pokemon in the older games, the stat you were training in would make a large increase (like +15 or +21). This time, it only went up by 4. Anyone know why?

TM13IceBeam · Mar 12th, 2011, 11:04:09 PM

EVs are now applied after the battle, not during a level up. This facilitates training of Lv 100 Pokemon(Arceus).

Sprocket · Mar 12th, 2011, 11:58:28 PM

The Effort Lady is in a house directly north of the Pokemon Center in Opelucid City. Unlike previous generations, she simply tells you that your Pokemon has the maximum EV value, and does not award you an Effort Ribbon for your trouble.

Also unlike previous generations, she will not change her phrase regardless of how close or how far away you are from maxing your EVs.

The exact phrase she uses when your Pokemon has a full 510 EV is:

"Your <Pokemon>...
has put in a great effort!"

When your Pokemon does not have 510 EV, she will say:

"Your <Pokemon>...
looks like it can try a little harder."

The best way to verify your EVs is, as always, to earn exactly 508 EVs, check the message to see if you maxed them out, then earn exactly 2 EVs and re-check. Alternatively you can earn exactly 508 EVs, check, use 1 wing, check, and use 1 last wing and check.

Andren · Mar 13th, 2011, 12:05:08 AM

Druddigon only gives 2 Atk points. Tested this while training a Tyranitar.

Muk Man · Mar 13th, 2011, 7:39:22 AM

why not just use all wings?

TM13IceBeam · Mar 13th, 2011, 7:40:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Muk Man

why not just use all wings?

Because they only give 1 EV. It's unreliable getting them too.

Kiebin · Mar 13th, 2011, 8:36:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Muk Man

why not just use all wings?

I did it once. Took me 6 hours of riding back and forth on Marvelous Bridge. It's not exactly the fastest way to go.

Muk Man · Mar 14th, 2011, 3:13:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Kiebin

I did it once. Took me 6 hours of riding back and forth on Marvelous Bridge. It's not exactly the fastest way to go.

Yeah... if you did it that way, but thats like actually trying to BUY enough rare candys to level up your pokes... im just saying, EV training is a WHOLE lot easier this game

DrDimentio · Mar 14th, 2011, 6:38:46 AM

It bothers me that there's no way to reduce EVs in Black and White, since items can't be transferred and there's no way to get the EV-reducing berries in the 5th gen yet.

Also, if I'd let my Zekrom faint to the first Pokemans in the battles against N and Ghetsis, would that be the only way to avoid those unwanted EVs from Reshiram and Cofagrigus? It's too late now, but just wondering if that's how it works.

TEA_DEMON · Mar 14th, 2011, 6:44:43 AM

you could just choose to not use zekrom in the battle.

DrDimentio · Mar 14th, 2011, 7:00:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat TEA_DEMON

you could just choose to not use zekrom in the battle.

I needed it in my party so I could check its stats to work out its IV and nature; if I'd sent it to the PC box, I wouldn't be able to access that until after the credits, which includes an auto-save. Oh well, it's only 4 'wasted' EVs anyway.

Also, the OP is very helpful... wish I'd seen this thread before I wasted so much time in less convenient places.

TM13IceBeam · Mar 14th, 2011, 7:27:32 AM

You are auto-healed after the N battle for Ghetsis.

Yes, it sucks.

Yes, you must kill Zekrom twice.

ScizorMeTimbers · Mar 14th, 2011, 9:40:03 AM

Awesome, only places I had figured out so far were route 1 for attack, and celestial tower for sp. atk. This saves me a lot of effort

AriadosPerson · Mar 14th, 2011, 2:55:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat TEA_DEMON

you could just choose to not use zekrom in the battle.

No, you can't. You're literally forced to use it first. The only way to avoid getting EVs is to have it die to the first Pokemon the final bosses send out. Against the second, you have Slash which you can spam while you die to Toxic, but against the first you have to use either your Psychic move or Slash and pray not to crit. Your Fusion move may double in power, and of course you shouldn't Dragonbreath.

Raptorg · Mar 14th, 2011, 3:38:56 PM

You can waste time by spamming X items, using offensive X items will allow you to waste up to 24 turns, enough to get a KO.

Cooler110033 · Mar 16th, 2011, 1:33:08 PM

Actually the best thing to do to stall is use an Antidote.

It'll say "But it had no effect!" and your turn will pass without you actually having done anything. And the antidote will NOT have been consumed. I do this all the time.

(i didn't bother trying any other status-ailment healing items, but i'd bet they work the same)

xcfrisco · Mar 16th, 2011, 3:14:02 PM

^^hot tip man, thanks

C4RN4GE · Mar 16th, 2011, 6:06:50 PM

if you have higher level pokes your ev training for Attack the field off of route 1 after you surf is great place...

Attack pokemon 100% (also great chance for double battle)
Lvls 30-35ish

Watchdog- 2 Atk
Herdier- 2 atk
Scraggy- 1 atk

(Also good place for pretty easy mid-level (30-50s) pokemon leveling up with the lucky egg- watchdog/herdier give an avg of 1000 exp)

XienZo · Mar 16th, 2011, 6:26:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat AriadosPerson

No, you can't. You're literally forced to use it first. The only way to avoid getting EVs is to have it die to the first Pokemon the final bosses send out. Against the second, you have Slash which you can spam while you die to Toxic, but against the first you have to use either your Psychic move or Slash and pray not to crit. Your Fusion move may double in power, and of course you shouldn't Dragonbreath.

1. Switch
2. Roar/Whirlwind

Zekrom won't get any experience/EVs this way, and you won't need to stall until it gets KOed either.

**Mario With Lasers** · Mar 16th, 2011, 6:39:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cooler110033

Actually the best thing to do to stall is use an Antidote.

It'll say "But it had no effect!" and your turn will pass without you actually having done anything. And the antidote will NOT have been consumed. I do this all the time.

(i didn't bother trying any other status-ailment healing items, but i'd bet they work the same)

Oh wow, I thought it just wouldn't let you use the item, but not lose the turn in DPPt? That's good news.

UnhandledException · Mar 16th, 2011, 6:53:46 PM

@XienZo : Zekrom will indeed get the evs even if you switched it out on the first turn.

@OP: Might want to mention Route 4 in the OP for Attack evs. Its got Scraggy(20%), Sandile(40%) and Darumaka(40%) all of whom give 1 Atk ev each.

MrSalty · Mar 22nd, 2011, 8:29:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat AriadosPerson

20% encounter rate, though. Surf in the dark parts of those puddles for 100% encounter rate.

you also run into Palpitoads something like 40% of the time in Icirrus, which give 2 HP's as well.

Mar 12th, 2011, 8:11:22 PM	#26
AriadosPerson Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 141 That magical place where everybody loves Ariados.	Victory Road with Lv. 40/42 dead Pokemon at party's top and Repels gives you 66% Durants, at 2 Def. EVs apiece. __________________ Being new, if I say something stupid, feel free to say so. I've lurked for a while before joining, though, so I THINK I know I'm talking about.

Mar 12th, 2011, 10:23:57 PM	#28
Alex Practice Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 686	You don't get effort ribbons anymore, but there's a woman in Opelucid that tells you when your Pokemon has maxed EVs. __________________ Mendo's Market Friend Codes: [Diamond 5370-6448-2399] [Platinum 4383-0264-3128]

Mar 12th, 2011, 11:04:09 PM	#30
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,247 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	EVs are now applied after the battle, not during a level up. This facilitates training of Lv 100 Pokemon(Arceus). __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Mar 12th, 2011, 11:58:28 PM	#31
Sprocket Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,487 Phoenix, AZ	The Effort Lady is in a house directly north of the Pokemon Center in Opelucid City. Unlike previous generations, she simply tells you that your Pokemon has the maximum EV value, and does not award you an Effort Ribbon for your trouble. Also unlike previous generations, she will not change her phrase regardless of how close or how far away you are from maxing your EVs. The exact phrase she uses when your Pokemon has a full 510 EV is: "Your <Pokemon>... has put in a great effort!" When your Pokemon does not have 510 EV, she will say: "Your <Pokemon>... looks like it can try a little harder." The best way to verify your EVs is, as always, to earn exactly 508 EVs, check the message to see if you maxed them out, then earn exactly 2 EVs and re-check. Alternatively you can earn exactly 508 EVs, check, use 1 wing, check, and use 1 last wing and check. __________________ Black FC: 2537-3042-2350 VGC2012 Analysis: Slowbro (Uploaded)

Mar 14th, 2011, 6:38:46 AM	#37
DrDimentio Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 168 Australia	It bothers me that there's no way to reduce EVs in Black and White, since items can't be transferred and there's no way to get the EV-reducing berries in the 5th gen yet. Also, if I'd let my Zekrom faint to the first Pokemans in the battles against N and Ghetsis, would that be the only way to avoid those unwanted EVs from Reshiram and Cofagrigus? It's too late now, but just wondering if that's how it works. __________________ My YouTube Pokemon Videos ~ Shiny Thundurus encounter, National Pokedex complete (646), Burgh's rape dungeon exposed, and more.

Mar 12th, 2011, 10:21:10 PM	#27
Elite_Battle_Master Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 66	Speaking of EV's... does anyone know where you obtain the Effort Ribbon in BW?

Mar 13th, 2011, 12:05:08 AM	#32
Andren Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,054	Druddigon only gives 2 Atk points. Tested this while training a Tyranitar.

Mar 13th, 2011, 7:39:22 AM	#33
Muk Man Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 18 Huntsville AL	why not just use all wings?

Mar 14th, 2011, 6:44:43 AM	#38
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Mar 14th, 2011, 7:27:32 AM	#40
TM13IceBeam Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,247 stuck in the past, locked in the present, banned from the future	You are auto-healed after the N battle for Ghetsis. Yes, it sucks. Yes, you must kill Zekrom twice. __________________ Start of turn 24 Natu used Grass Knot! It's super effective! The foe's Corsola lost 31% of its health! Riolu ftw Amazing Rotom-S is amazing KAKUNA i'm dead, don't bother contacting me

Mar 14th, 2011, 9:40:03 AM	#41
ScizorMeTimbers Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 49	Awesome, only places I had figured out so far were route 1 for attack, and celestial tower for sp. atk. This saves me a lot of effort

Mar 14th, 2011, 3:38:56 PM	#43
Raptorg Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 250	You can waste time by spamming X items, using offensive X items will allow you to waste up to 24 turns, enough to get a KO.

Mar 16th, 2011, 1:33:08 PM	#44
Cooler110033 Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1	Actually the best thing to do to stall is use an Antidote. It'll say "But it had no effect!" and your turn will pass without you actually having done anything. And the antidote will NOT have been consumed. I do this all the time. (i didn't bother trying any other status-ailment healing items, but i'd bet they work the same)

Mar 16th, 2011, 3:14:02 PM	#45
xcfrisco Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 560 vegas	^^hot tip man, thanks __________________ Avatar done by GTS, he's awesome.

Mar 16th, 2011, 6:06:50 PM	#46
C4RN4GE Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 31	if you have higher level pokes your ev training for Attack the field off of route 1 after you surf is great place... Attack pokemon 100% (also great chance for double battle) Lvls 30-35ish Watchdog- 2 Atk Herdier- 2 atk Scraggy- 1 atk (Also good place for pretty easy mid-level (30-50s) pokemon leveling up with the lucky egg- watchdog/herdier give an avg of 1000 exp)

Mar 16th, 2011, 6:53:46 PM	#49
UnhandledException Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 364 :P	@XienZo : Zekrom will indeed get the evs even if you switched it out on the first turn. @OP: Might want to mention Route 4 in the OP for Attack evs. Its got Scraggy(20%), Sandile(40%) and Darumaka(40%) all of whom give 1 Atk ev each.